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<p>[QUOTE="jamesicus, post: 3147084, member: 14873"]<font face="Times New Roman">During the Conferance at Carnuntum in the Autumn of 308, consisting of Diocletian and Maximian Herculius as Seniores (retired) Augusti and Galerius Maximian as the de-facto legitimate Augustus, which was convened in an attempt to resolve the urgent constitutional problems threatening the Tetrarchy, Galerius suggested that neither Constantine or (Edit) Maximinus Daia (legitimate Caesar of the West and East respectively) be recognized as Augustus, proposing instead that his old friend and military comrade <i>Flavius Valerius Licinianus Licinius</i> (Licinius), be appointed Augustus of the West to replace the deceased Severus and he obtained the concurrence of Diocletian and Maximian Herculius in this maneuver. Maxentius was declared an enemy of the state by the conferees and Maximian Herculius once more went into retirement. Galerius proposed that Constantine (recently, and questionably elevated to Augustus by Maximian Herculius) be formally recognized as Caesar of the West (although Constantine did not acquiesce) and Maximian Daia remain as Caesar of the East.</font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><br /></font></p><p><b><font face="Times New Roman">Filius Augustorum</font></b></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman">Constantine was incensed at his proposed "demotion" to Caesar subservient to Licinius as was Maximinus at the elevation of Licinius to Augustus over him, and so Galerius Maximian designated both of them <i>Filius Augustorum:</i> "Son of the Augustus" -- a somewhat empty title of convenience and compromise -- in an attempt to mollify them. This attempt to placate the two de-facto Caesars didn't work however. Constantine generally ignored it (for instance, no coins bearing this titulature were minted in any of the western mints now controlled by him: London, Trier, and Lugdunum {Lyon}). Maximinus begrudgingly minted some coins bearing this titulature at the mints he controlled (Alexandria and Antioch). The remaining issues bearing this titulature were produced by Galerius at the mints he controlled: Siscia, Thessalonica and Nicomedia.</font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman">SELECTED EXAMPLE COINS:</font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><br /></font></p><p><b><font face="Times New Roman">RIC VI, Alexandria, No. 99b, Constantine as Filius Augustorum</font></b></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><img src="http://jp29.org/000consfilo.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="http://jp29.org/000consfilr.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><b>FL VAL CONSTANTINVS FIL AVG</b> ..................................... <b>GENIO CAESARIS</b></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><b>ALE</b> in reverse exergue</font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><br /></font></p><p><b><font face="Times New Roman">RIC VI, Thessalonica, No. 32a, Maximinus Daia as Filius Augustorum</font></b></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><img src="http://jp29.org/000maxifilo.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="http://jp29.org/000maxifilr.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><b>MAXIMINVS FIL AVGG</b> ................................... <b>GENIO CAESARIS</b></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><b>SMTS</b> in reverse exergue</font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman">Coins with this designation were struck in the names of Constantine and Maximinus Daia by Galerius Maximian and only at the Eastern/Asia Minor Mints he controlled: Siscia, Thessalonica, and Nicomedia.</font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman">There is an excellent in-depth discussion of this coinage on @Valentinian’s web site.</font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="jamesicus, post: 3147084, member: 14873"][FONT=Times New Roman]During the Conferance at Carnuntum in the Autumn of 308, consisting of Diocletian and Maximian Herculius as Seniores (retired) Augusti and Galerius Maximian as the de-facto legitimate Augustus, which was convened in an attempt to resolve the urgent constitutional problems threatening the Tetrarchy, Galerius suggested that neither Constantine or (Edit) Maximinus Daia (legitimate Caesar of the West and East respectively) be recognized as Augustus, proposing instead that his old friend and military comrade [I]Flavius Valerius Licinianus Licinius[/I] (Licinius), be appointed Augustus of the West to replace the deceased Severus and he obtained the concurrence of Diocletian and Maximian Herculius in this maneuver. Maxentius was declared an enemy of the state by the conferees and Maximian Herculius once more went into retirement. Galerius proposed that Constantine (recently, and questionably elevated to Augustus by Maximian Herculius) be formally recognized as Caesar of the West (although Constantine did not acquiesce) and Maximian Daia remain as Caesar of the East. [/FONT] [B][FONT=Times New Roman]Filius Augustorum[/FONT][/B] [FONT=Times New Roman] Constantine was incensed at his proposed "demotion" to Caesar subservient to Licinius as was Maximinus at the elevation of Licinius to Augustus over him, and so Galerius Maximian designated both of them [I]Filius Augustorum:[/I] "Son of the Augustus" -- a somewhat empty title of convenience and compromise -- in an attempt to mollify them. This attempt to placate the two de-facto Caesars didn't work however. Constantine generally ignored it (for instance, no coins bearing this titulature were minted in any of the western mints now controlled by him: London, Trier, and Lugdunum {Lyon}). Maximinus begrudgingly minted some coins bearing this titulature at the mints he controlled (Alexandria and Antioch). The remaining issues bearing this titulature were produced by Galerius at the mints he controlled: Siscia, Thessalonica and Nicomedia. SELECTED EXAMPLE COINS: [/FONT] [B][FONT=Times New Roman]RIC VI, Alexandria, No. 99b, Constantine as Filius Augustorum[/FONT][/B] [FONT=Times New Roman] [IMG]http://jp29.org/000consfilo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://jp29.org/000consfilr.jpg[/IMG] [B]FL VAL CONSTANTINVS FIL AVG[/B] ..................................... [B]GENIO CAESARIS[/B] [B]ALE[/B] in reverse exergue [/FONT] [B][FONT=Times New Roman]RIC VI, Thessalonica, No. 32a, Maximinus Daia as Filius Augustorum[/FONT][/B] [FONT=Times New Roman] [IMG]http://jp29.org/000maxifilo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://jp29.org/000maxifilr.jpg[/IMG] [B]MAXIMINVS FIL AVGG[/B] ................................... [B]GENIO CAESARIS[/B] [B]SMTS[/B] in reverse exergue Coins with this designation were struck in the names of Constantine and Maximinus Daia by Galerius Maximian and only at the Eastern/Asia Minor Mints he controlled: Siscia, Thessalonica, and Nicomedia. There is an excellent in-depth discussion of this coinage on @Valentinian’s web site.[/FONT][/QUOTE]
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