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<p>[QUOTE="Jaelus, post: 4168432, member: 46237"]I also agree with the above statements.</p><p><br /></p><p>A coin that is "as struck" that is also not an error coin is by definition not flawed, and it does not and should not impact the grade.</p><p><br /></p><p>What happens when these type of minting process artifacts show up on a coin from the dies is that it creates a different <i>variety</i>. Varieties are simply different from each other. No variety is "lesser than" another variety. They simply <i>are</i>.</p><p><br /></p><p>Then you have planchet adjustment marks as well that show up on many issues. There are certainly types that I have never seen a non-adjusted example of. These are not varieties but are accepted artifacts of the minting process as well.</p><p><br /></p><p>Keep in mind that for many older issues there were <i>no examples produced</i> that had a "perfect" die state. The argument that this would cap the maximum grade of a freshly "as struck" coin for all issues doesn't seem reasonable.</p><p><br /></p><p>Case in point, take the Bashlow CSA cent restrikes. Those were produced from defaced dies, and yet these defaced dies can produce a perfect MS70 example, as struck.</p><p><br /></p><p>After a very quick search I found an MS69 example at Heritage.:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B8%2F8%2F7%2F1%2F8871953%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><img src="https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B8%2F8%2F7%2F1%2F8871954%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jaelus, post: 4168432, member: 46237"]I also agree with the above statements. A coin that is "as struck" that is also not an error coin is by definition not flawed, and it does not and should not impact the grade. What happens when these type of minting process artifacts show up on a coin from the dies is that it creates a different [I]variety[/I]. Varieties are simply different from each other. No variety is "lesser than" another variety. They simply [I]are[/I]. Then you have planchet adjustment marks as well that show up on many issues. There are certainly types that I have never seen a non-adjusted example of. These are not varieties but are accepted artifacts of the minting process as well. Keep in mind that for many older issues there were [I]no examples produced[/I] that had a "perfect" die state. The argument that this would cap the maximum grade of a freshly "as struck" coin for all issues doesn't seem reasonable. Case in point, take the Bashlow CSA cent restrikes. Those were produced from defaced dies, and yet these defaced dies can produce a perfect MS70 example, as struck. After a very quick search I found an MS69 example at Heritage.: [IMG]https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B8%2F8%2F7%2F1%2F8871953%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/IMG] [IMG]https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B8%2F8%2F7%2F1%2F8871954%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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