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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 4420502, member: 19463"]I will point out that there are some coins if shown to several 'experts' will not be classified the same by all. The worst product of the official mint might be no 'better' than the best product of the ancient unofficial operation. My Trier shown above is such a coin.</p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/rx6336bb2886-jpg.1105988/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>This comes up most often with coins of the usurper Magnentius for whom we have a continuous range of very well made to laughable styles with no certain division between the two. I regret now having passed up some I saw years ago when I was only buying coins I considered 'proper'. </p><p><br /></p><p>It is not all that unusual in the history of the hobby for coins first thought to be barbarous to later be classified as a branch mint. Nearly a hundred years ago (1921) a French numismatist Laffranci suggested that a group of denarii of Septimius Severus was similar in style to the tetradrachm mint in Alexandria so should be classified as a branch of the official system rather than as barbarous as previously believed. In the 1990's I bought more than one 'Emesa' mint Septimius denarius from unillustrated lists of one favorite seller who always listed them as barbarous because he, then, was not familiar with the recognized branch mint. I have no doubt that further study will result in some other groups of 'different' coins being upgraded to branch status by some numismatist not yet out of elementary school. </p><p><br /></p><p>We need to remember that we do not have written records pointing out that there were a certain number of official mints and where they were located but such classifications are made 'reverse engineering' by studying a large number of coins using style and find spot data. This is not a good hobby for people who think all that needs to be known is available in one neat little package. We are dealing with a work in progress.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 4420502, member: 19463"]I will point out that there are some coins if shown to several 'experts' will not be classified the same by all. The worst product of the official mint might be no 'better' than the best product of the ancient unofficial operation. My Trier shown above is such a coin. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/rx6336bb2886-jpg.1105988/[/IMG] This comes up most often with coins of the usurper Magnentius for whom we have a continuous range of very well made to laughable styles with no certain division between the two. I regret now having passed up some I saw years ago when I was only buying coins I considered 'proper'. It is not all that unusual in the history of the hobby for coins first thought to be barbarous to later be classified as a branch mint. Nearly a hundred years ago (1921) a French numismatist Laffranci suggested that a group of denarii of Septimius Severus was similar in style to the tetradrachm mint in Alexandria so should be classified as a branch of the official system rather than as barbarous as previously believed. In the 1990's I bought more than one 'Emesa' mint Septimius denarius from unillustrated lists of one favorite seller who always listed them as barbarous because he, then, was not familiar with the recognized branch mint. I have no doubt that further study will result in some other groups of 'different' coins being upgraded to branch status by some numismatist not yet out of elementary school. We need to remember that we do not have written records pointing out that there were a certain number of official mints and where they were located but such classifications are made 'reverse engineering' by studying a large number of coins using style and find spot data. This is not a good hobby for people who think all that needs to be known is available in one neat little package. We are dealing with a work in progress.[/QUOTE]
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