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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 6451579, member: 26430"]Indeed, [USER=13719]@randygeki[/USER] 's past posts on FH shields (among many other excellent details) are what prompted me to look for one, and thus how I ended up buying the first coin above and starting the thread (the decorated shield from Cyzicus).</p><p><br /></p><p>Fantastically well-chosen example, [USER=87080]@TheRed[/USER] for a single Fallen Horseman! Not only a beautiful one, and a less-common PARL exergue, but from a noted hoard. Very cool coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>I just looked around among all the AE3s I've got handy and it seems I don't have any (obvious) Rome examples. Well, I have to get working on that, Amiens, and a "barb" (I've got at least one ruler from the other 13 I'm aware of from Dane Kurth's list, though I could stand some improvements).</p><p><br /></p><p>I'll just throw out what is perhaps my favorite in part because of the extraordinary weight (7.67g), at the very high end of the distribution for these (as noted below). Still need better photo and a bit more research:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1256941[/ATTACH]</p><p><a href="https://i.imgur.com/4Qw1Nyo.mp4" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://i.imgur.com/4Qw1Nyo.mp4" rel="nofollow">Coin-in-hand video available here</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>“The Gran Constantinople.” Roman Imperial. Constantius II (337 – 360) AE Maiorina </b>(7.67g, 25mm, 12h). Constantinople mint, 348-351.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Obverse</b>: D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG. Pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust, surrounded by border of dots.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Reverse</b>: FEL TEMP REPARATIO // Γ to left // CONSE* in exergue. Soldier standing left, holding long oval shield and spearing fallen horseman; bearded horseman still astride his fallen horse, turning and reaching back with left arm (FH3), wearing short-brimmed Scythian helmet and ornate tunic and trousers. <a href="http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/dots/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/dots/" rel="nofollow">"Centering dot"</a> between soldier and horse.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Reference</b>: <i>(EDIT, "Centering dot," and RIC 82 for FH3, not RIC 81) </i>RIC 82</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Pedigree</b>: Ex-Bertolami Fine Arts Auction 37 (Rome, 19 September 2017), Lot 699 (corr.; <a href="https://issuu.com/artcoins/docs/asta_37/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://issuu.com/artcoins/docs/asta_37/" rel="nofollow">print catalog</a>, <a href="https://issuu.com/artcoins/docs/asta_37/124" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://issuu.com/artcoins/docs/asta_37/124" rel="nofollow">page 124</a>) & Auction e-92 (London, 2 October 2020), Lot 1554.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Notes</b>: Unusually large example, in terms of diameter (unusual to see virtually the entire “pearl-ring diameter” struck within the flan), but especially in terms of weight. Only a few larger examples of “Fallen Horseman” issues have been noted. Of approximately 405 (?) “Large AE2” (probably “Pecuniae Maiorinae”) examples from the Münzkabinett at Vienna measured by Kent (RIC VIII, p.65-71), one weighed approx. 7.7g and one 8.2g. However, this number included not only “Fallen Horsemen,” but also an unknown number of examples from the often-heavier issues such as the “Emperor Holding two Standards” type. Including also acsearch.info auction records of Constantius Gallus (of whom an 8+ g example was sold at Gitbud & Naumann) and Constans (for whom there are none), there seem to be only a handful of heavier examples published. Additionally, an exceptionally <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/ftr.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/ftr.html" rel="nofollow">large 9.5g example from Cyzicus was reported by Doug Smith</a> / [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER] , circa 1997.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 6451579, member: 26430"]Indeed, [USER=13719]@randygeki[/USER] 's past posts on FH shields (among many other excellent details) are what prompted me to look for one, and thus how I ended up buying the first coin above and starting the thread (the decorated shield from Cyzicus). Fantastically well-chosen example, [USER=87080]@TheRed[/USER] for a single Fallen Horseman! Not only a beautiful one, and a less-common PARL exergue, but from a noted hoard. Very cool coin. I just looked around among all the AE3s I've got handy and it seems I don't have any (obvious) Rome examples. Well, I have to get working on that, Amiens, and a "barb" (I've got at least one ruler from the other 13 I'm aware of from Dane Kurth's list, though I could stand some improvements). I'll just throw out what is perhaps my favorite in part because of the extraordinary weight (7.67g), at the very high end of the distribution for these (as noted below). Still need better photo and a bit more research: [ATTACH=full]1256941[/ATTACH] [URL='https://i.imgur.com/4Qw1Nyo.mp4']Coin-in-hand video available here[/URL]. [B]“The Gran Constantinople.” Roman Imperial. Constantius II (337 – 360) AE Maiorina [/B](7.67g, 25mm, 12h). Constantinople mint, 348-351. [B]Obverse[/B]: D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG. Pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust, surrounded by border of dots. [B]Reverse[/B]: FEL TEMP REPARATIO // Γ to left // CONSE* in exergue. Soldier standing left, holding long oval shield and spearing fallen horseman; bearded horseman still astride his fallen horse, turning and reaching back with left arm (FH3), wearing short-brimmed Scythian helmet and ornate tunic and trousers. [URL='http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/dots/']"Centering dot"[/URL] between soldier and horse. [B]Reference[/B]: [I](EDIT, "Centering dot," and RIC 82 for FH3, not RIC 81) [/I]RIC 82 [B]Pedigree[/B]: Ex-Bertolami Fine Arts Auction 37 (Rome, 19 September 2017), Lot 699 (corr.; [URL='https://issuu.com/artcoins/docs/asta_37/']print catalog[/URL], [URL='https://issuu.com/artcoins/docs/asta_37/124']page 124[/URL]) & Auction e-92 (London, 2 October 2020), Lot 1554. [B]Notes[/B]: Unusually large example, in terms of diameter (unusual to see virtually the entire “pearl-ring diameter” struck within the flan), but especially in terms of weight. Only a few larger examples of “Fallen Horseman” issues have been noted. Of approximately 405 (?) “Large AE2” (probably “Pecuniae Maiorinae”) examples from the Münzkabinett at Vienna measured by Kent (RIC VIII, p.65-71), one weighed approx. 7.7g and one 8.2g. However, this number included not only “Fallen Horsemen,” but also an unknown number of examples from the often-heavier issues such as the “Emperor Holding two Standards” type. Including also acsearch.info auction records of Constantius Gallus (of whom an 8+ g example was sold at Gitbud & Naumann) and Constans (for whom there are none), there seem to be only a handful of heavier examples published. Additionally, an exceptionally [URL='https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/ftr.html']large 9.5g example from Cyzicus was reported by Doug Smith[/URL] / [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER] , circa 1997.[/QUOTE]
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