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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 24746657, member: 26430"]<p style="text-align: center"><b><font size="6">HAPPY FTR FRIDAY!</font></b></p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="5"><b>Anyone have any new FEL TEMP REPARATIOs to share since June of 2021? (Or just not posted above.)</b></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="5"><br /></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="5">Don't feel constrained to Fallen Horsemen if you've run out of those -- share another FTR!</font></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I've added a few interesting Fallen Horsemen since the last "FEL TEMP Friday" (over 2 years ago).</p><p><br /></p><p>Since my first post was about an interesting shield decoration, I'll start with another.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>My most recent addition to my Fallen Horseman collection.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Besides the shield, I also like the globe-in-hand portrait with rosette-diadem (similar to Thessalonica). I previously had some small ones from Rome mint, but this is my first big one:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1583014[/ATTACH]</p><p>RIC 174. 25mm (max), 4.6g, 6h.</p><p><br /></p><p>The same interesting "starburst" design appears on Rome mint specimens above <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/fel-temp-friday-a-fallen-horseman-thread.375587/#post-6446431" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/fel-temp-friday-a-fallen-horseman-thread.375587/#post-6446431">from Doug Smith</a> and <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/fel-temp-friday-a-fallen-horseman-thread.375587/page-3#post-7699931" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/fel-temp-friday-a-fallen-horseman-thread.375587/page-3#post-7699931">the one from</a> [USER=13719]@randygeki[/USER] (who has a fantastic collection of decorated shields on FH's).</p><p><br /></p><p>In fact, the exact same shield pattern appears on most or all of Rome's “Large AE2” dies, from all the different workshops. (See, e.g., <a href="https://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.8.rom.174" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.8.rom.174" rel="nofollow">RIC 174</a> & <a href="https://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.8.rom.176" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.8.rom.176" rel="nofollow">RIC 176</a>.) So it must have been a very deliberate part of the design. I wonder if a specific legion was being honored by representing its shield decoration? (Reportedly, specific legions used specific shield patterns, at least later in the 4th century. See the <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/fel-temp-friday-a-fallen-horseman-thread.375587/page-2#post-6448342" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/fel-temp-friday-a-fallen-horseman-thread.375587/page-2#post-6448342">post above by ancientcoinhunter</a>.)</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Another addition that's much more interesting than its condition would suggest.</b> (Need a better photo, sorry.)</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1583016[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>That one is from the Amiens/Ambianum mint. It brings me to 14 of 15 mints that issued Fallen Horsemen: </p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p><i>Alexandria, Amiens, Antioch, Aquileia, Arles, Constantinople, Cyzicus, Heraclea, Lugdunum, Nicomedia, Rome, Sirmium, Siscia, </i>and<i> Thessalonica</i>.</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>I need only Trier (Treves/Treveri), easily the hardest to find. (AMB is 2nd hardest.)</p><p><br /></p><p>That's for the "starter mint set." I'm not even close to the "full mint set" (one from each mint, for each ruler, in each size!) like Doug's (it looks to me like <a href="http://www.catbikes.ch/helvetica/feltemps.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.catbikes.ch/helvetica/feltemps.htm" rel="nofollow">Helvetica's online collection was very close at last update</a>, but one of the Amiens looks like Antioch): <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/fh.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/fh.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/fh.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Two more new-ish (past 2 years) Fallen Horsemen from Western mints</b>.</p><p><br /></p><p>Arles, with a less elaborately decorated shield:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1583017[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>And Lugdunum (Lyons) with interesting style:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1583018[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 24746657, member: 26430"][CENTER][B][SIZE=6]HAPPY FTR FRIDAY![/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=5][B]Anyone have any new FEL TEMP REPARATIOs to share since June of 2021? (Or just not posted above.)[/B] Don't feel constrained to Fallen Horsemen if you've run out of those -- share another FTR![/SIZE][/CENTER] I've added a few interesting Fallen Horsemen since the last "FEL TEMP Friday" (over 2 years ago). Since my first post was about an interesting shield decoration, I'll start with another. [B]My most recent addition to my Fallen Horseman collection.[/B] Besides the shield, I also like the globe-in-hand portrait with rosette-diadem (similar to Thessalonica). I previously had some small ones from Rome mint, but this is my first big one: [ATTACH=full]1583014[/ATTACH] RIC 174. 25mm (max), 4.6g, 6h. The same interesting "starburst" design appears on Rome mint specimens above [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/fel-temp-friday-a-fallen-horseman-thread.375587/#post-6446431']from Doug Smith[/URL] and [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/fel-temp-friday-a-fallen-horseman-thread.375587/page-3#post-7699931']the one from[/URL] [USER=13719]@randygeki[/USER] (who has a fantastic collection of decorated shields on FH's). In fact, the exact same shield pattern appears on most or all of Rome's “Large AE2” dies, from all the different workshops. (See, e.g., [URL='https://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.8.rom.174']RIC 174[/URL] & [URL='https://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.8.rom.176']RIC 176[/URL].) So it must have been a very deliberate part of the design. I wonder if a specific legion was being honored by representing its shield decoration? (Reportedly, specific legions used specific shield patterns, at least later in the 4th century. See the [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/fel-temp-friday-a-fallen-horseman-thread.375587/page-2#post-6448342']post above by ancientcoinhunter[/URL].) [B]Another addition that's much more interesting than its condition would suggest.[/B] (Need a better photo, sorry.) [ATTACH=full]1583016[/ATTACH] That one is from the Amiens/Ambianum mint. It brings me to 14 of 15 mints that issued Fallen Horsemen: [I][/I] [INDENT][I]Alexandria, Amiens, Antioch, Aquileia, Arles, Constantinople, Cyzicus, Heraclea, Lugdunum, Nicomedia, Rome, Sirmium, Siscia, [/I]and[I] Thessalonica[/I].[/INDENT] I need only Trier (Treves/Treveri), easily the hardest to find. (AMB is 2nd hardest.) That's for the "starter mint set." I'm not even close to the "full mint set" (one from each mint, for each ruler, in each size!) like Doug's (it looks to me like [URL='http://www.catbikes.ch/helvetica/feltemps.htm']Helvetica's online collection was very close at last update[/URL], but one of the Amiens looks like Antioch): [URL]https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/fh.html[/URL] [B]Two more new-ish (past 2 years) Fallen Horsemen from Western mints[/B]. Arles, with a less elaborately decorated shield: [ATTACH=full]1583017[/ATTACH] And Lugdunum (Lyons) with interesting style: [ATTACH=full]1583018[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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