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<p>[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 358258, member: 6370"]It matters what they mean by improperly cleaned. Not everyone has the same standards. Improperly cleaned to me means 'harsh' cleaning. By that I mean...if it looks like it has been cleaned with steel wool and I can visibly see surface marks from someone scrubbing it harshly, or if the coin has been cleaned with a harsh chemical which has effected the metals color or look, or if it was cleaned to have an inconsistent look.</p><p> </p><p>If someone is looking through a microscope to find evidence of cleaning then I couldn't care less and I know I am not alone in that. For me it is eye appeal...by that I mean naked eye appeal. If you need to use magnification of the surface to prove it was cleaned, or if you have to carefully look for very subtle signs then it wasn't improperly cleaned in my book. I have posted cleaned coins that nobody noticed were cleaned, even here where people are manic about such things and seldom err on the side of caution when pronouncing a coin 'problematic' or fake and seldom hold their tongues when it comes to pointing stuff like this out.</p><p> </p><p>If I say, about a coin I have cleaned, that I cleaned it but no one would know it...someone will always say 'an expert will know it if they can examine it in hand'...and again...if you have to be an expert, and you have to examine it closely and look for subtle signs that you have learned to look for. Then I am fine with it.</p><p> </p><p>I am also fine with whose people who cut a coins value because someone dared to clean it. I get great rare coins with great eye appeal that way. I think that ALL my coins before a certain date have been cleaned at one time by others or lightly cleaned by me. A few probably improperly but they all look very nice, none have been altered. Fads come and go and taste are subjective and subject to change. So yes, I will buy cleaned coins, even some coins some might call improperly cleaned.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 358258, member: 6370"]It matters what they mean by improperly cleaned. Not everyone has the same standards. Improperly cleaned to me means 'harsh' cleaning. By that I mean...if it looks like it has been cleaned with steel wool and I can visibly see surface marks from someone scrubbing it harshly, or if the coin has been cleaned with a harsh chemical which has effected the metals color or look, or if it was cleaned to have an inconsistent look. If someone is looking through a microscope to find evidence of cleaning then I couldn't care less and I know I am not alone in that. For me it is eye appeal...by that I mean naked eye appeal. If you need to use magnification of the surface to prove it was cleaned, or if you have to carefully look for very subtle signs then it wasn't improperly cleaned in my book. I have posted cleaned coins that nobody noticed were cleaned, even here where people are manic about such things and seldom err on the side of caution when pronouncing a coin 'problematic' or fake and seldom hold their tongues when it comes to pointing stuff like this out. If I say, about a coin I have cleaned, that I cleaned it but no one would know it...someone will always say 'an expert will know it if they can examine it in hand'...and again...if you have to be an expert, and you have to examine it closely and look for subtle signs that you have learned to look for. Then I am fine with it. I am also fine with whose people who cut a coins value because someone dared to clean it. I get great rare coins with great eye appeal that way. I think that ALL my coins before a certain date have been cleaned at one time by others or lightly cleaned by me. A few probably improperly but they all look very nice, none have been altered. Fads come and go and taste are subjective and subject to change. So yes, I will buy cleaned coins, even some coins some might call improperly cleaned.[/QUOTE]
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