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Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Dougmeister, Oct 19, 2018.

  1. Bambam8778

    Bambam8778 Well-Known Member

    Listed as unopened roll of '79 S Susan B Anthony's. I don't think soooooooooo (maybe unopened by the seller but highly doubt it!) Screen Shot 2019-01-13 at 8.15.03 AM.png
     
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  3. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    That is exactly what the seller means. "They" never opened it, and there are so many postings like this on eBay.
     
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  4. Bambam8778

    Bambam8778 Well-Known Member

    I collect unopened rolls of Bank of America wrapped coins and if you can't see the edge, I don't trust it.
     
  5. BlackberryPie

    BlackberryPie I like pie

    What do you mean the edge? Do you have a photo?
     
  6. Bambam8778

    Bambam8778 Well-Known Member

    So when you get rolls of change you either have Customer wrapped or bank wrapped. Bank wrapped are like so..... You see the tightly crimped edge which can generally only be made by a machine. (some people have these at their disposal but generally they are bank wrapped.) Especially if you see the banks name on the side of the wrappers (common in older rolled coins). If you see someone advertising for an unopened roll and you see this, you are good to go for the most part. Nobody has opened these.
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    if you see something like this below then you know it's more than likely been gone through. The owner can look through the roll, put them back in the wrapper and then close it up just as you would with any roll. N.F. String & Son's makes a roll that has one end nicely crimped. You fill it and you close the other end. The original ebay photo I showed only has a partial shot of the edge but it's enough that you know it has already been gone through. A lot to list here and I can continue in a private conversation but there are other things to look for as well that are dead give aways as to if a roll is truly unstarched or not. Hope this helps.
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  7. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

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  8. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    You and I both know this is not really a '16-D, but at least give the seller the benefit of the doubt. It's likely he / she has never held a real '16-D in hand, and doesn't know that the artifact which appears like a D looks nothing like the D on a genuine example.
     
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  9. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    So saying "damn" on the forum is against the rules now? I've said it in posts before and nobody said anything about it. Never heard of anybody getting offended, considering the word "damn" is in the Bible. Wow. Edited my original post back because I think you're being unreasonable.

    And no, I won't give the benefit of the doubt. If you even know what a 1916-D is and selling it as such, you know there has to be a mint mark there, which there is none. This isn't a classic 16-S where somebody thinks it's a D. You claim to be a dealer, first you say it's a rare coin in another thread, which it's not, then make excuses for an obvious clickbait, then take exception to my post because it has damn in it..... Damn, that's interesting.
     
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  10. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Getting huffy won't get you your way. I edited your post because it was reported as offensive. The fact that your language fell outside the guidelines of being suitable for 1950's television is all the reason I need to do so. The fact that I hadn't seen your prior use of that word reported is irrelevant. We can't all be watching all of the time.

    The artifact I referred to visually resembles a D in the photo, despite not conforming to the geometry of the mintmark you and I both know looks very different on a legitimate '16-D dime. Whether that artifact is merely toning, or if there is some raised metal there, perhaps from being a heavily worn counterfeit, matters not. What matters is that you openly criticized someone who apparently lacks your experience, rather than trying to understand what he / she was really seeing, and weighing in afterward.

    As for your claim that the 1916-D dime is not rare in XF45 or AU50, that is a rare coin in my mind. Why? Not only because of the sheer number of Merc Dime collectors who must forego the date in any grade, but because of all of the grades in which one could collect Merc Dimes - individual mint state grades excepted - XF is the hardest grade in which to locate the '16-D . . . and it's no close race. If you didn't already know this, I'm very surprised.

    I'm not making excuses for the lister of that coin, as much as I'm asking you not to assume they know exactly what they have.

    Should he / she have asked someone more knowledgeable about the coin before listing it? Yes.

    Should you have asked the seller a bit more about the coin and their knowledge of coins before lambasting him / her? Yes.
     
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  11. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    I'm not "getting huffy". I'm pointing out your flawed logic. If the Admins or Mods don't want that term to be used period, then censors should be set. I managed a forum for several years- there is a censor feature in your admin panel to automatically censor words when they are typed and submitted.

    As far as EF being the rarest grade to obtain the 1916-D, you're using the term "rare" when the coin clearly is not. With money, one can obtain plenty of examples of this date in any grade up to AU with no problems. There are several EF's available for sale as we speak. To state that it is "rare" is completely wrong. When there are multiple examples in any grade available at any given time, it's hard to argue it is rare. Scarce, yes, because of demand, but the coin is readily available. Not knocking 1916-D, it's my favorite coin of all time. I'm just stating facts.
     
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  12. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    Sorry, but I do not subscribe to any finite rarity scale known to mankind. The Sheldon scale, most commonly followed in our industry is quite misleading in describing all coins for which more than 1250 examples exist as being "common".

    A lengthier perspective on the subject of rarity may be found at https://www.pcgs.com/news/a-look-at-rarity

    With nearly twice as many mint state '16-D Mercs graded as XF coins, I still assert that XF coins are rare.
     
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  13. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    You want rare?! Try finding an 1809 or 1822 Dime in any decent problem free grade that hasn't been messed with. THOSE coins are truly rare.
     
  14. BlackberryPie

    BlackberryPie I like pie

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  15. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    You'll get no argument from me . . . I've never bought an 1822 because I've never examined one I liked.

    To add to what you wrote, just as rare are the date collectors of that series who would part with fair money for those coins . . .
     
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  16. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    I'm one of those "rare" ones you mentioned, lol. I still have yet to find an 1822 that pleases my eye.
     
  17. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I grew up in the days when most everyone called the 16-D a rare coin. I still think of it that way. A lot of folks that have built really nice Mercury sets, look for the 16-D in XF or AU. Finding a nice one can be tough. Many including myself don't care for one in a lower grade.
     
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  18. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    I was always told it was, and it is indeed scarce. But when I began exploring and researching early U.S. Coins, I realized the definition of true rarity. Regardless. The 1916-D Mercury Dime will always be my favorite and most beloved United States Coin, hence, my handle.
     
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  19. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

    I think the perceptions of rarity and scarcity have changed with the advent of the Internet. For 99+% of U.S. coins you can find an acceptable example if you must have it within an hour. I am reluctant to call most U.S. coins rare with few exceptions (mostly certain early federal issues).
     
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  20. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    No further comment required.
     
  21. brokecoinguy

    brokecoinguy I like what I can't afford

    Was searching steelies and came across this gem

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