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<p>[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 7964796, member: 75937"]<b>Faustina Friday – They Had to Put Up a Fence! (Continued)</b></p><p><br /></p><p><b>2. Faustina's carpentum has been installed.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>The second difference between the coins of AD 143 and 150 is that there is an object behind the fence in the middle of the stairs which takes the form of a square shape topped by an arched line. There is empty space between the square object and the arched line through which can be seen the temple in the background. This has led Beckmann to interpret this object as the carpentum used in the <i>currus elephantorum</i> during her funeral as seen head-on.[5]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1380950[/ATTACH]</p><blockquote><p><font size="3">Enlargement of the reverse of the sestertius (Künker specimen) above detailing the object Beckmann has interpreted as representing Faustina's funerary carpentum.</font></p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1380951[/ATTACH]</p><blockquote><p><font size="3">Ꜹ aureus depicting Faustina’s <i>currus elephantorum</i>. RIC 352, <a href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/C_R-12497" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/C_R-12497" rel="nofollow">British Museum specimen</a>. This coin was also issued in AD 150 as part of the 10th anniversary commemoration.</font></p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>The carpentum was apparently displayed on a specially constructed pedestal at the base of the temple steps. This pedestal is still present today.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1380952[/ATTACH]</p><blockquote><p><font size="3">The Temple of Divus Antoninus and Diva Faustina <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/latest-faustina-senior-is-an-architectural-issue.298655/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/latest-faustina-senior-is-an-architectural-issue.298655/">still survives</a> in the Roman Forum, enclosing the church of San Lorenzo in Miranda. The pedestal for Faustina's carpentum is visible at the base of the steps. Photo courtesy of <i>Parco Archeologico Del Colosseo.</i>[6]</font></p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>The pedestal on which Faustina's carpentum stood was possibly added as part of her death-anniversary celebrations because it does not appear on the earlier temple coins from AD 143.[7]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>3. Two statues have been placed flanking the staircase.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>On the coins of AD 150, when compared to the early coins of AD 143, two statues on pedestals have been added to the wings of the podium on either side of the staircase. These figures are extremely difficult to make out clearly, even on well-preserved sestertii, such as the Künker specimen above. Beckmann interprets them as representing Ceres with one torch and Proserpina with two torches, but cautions that this hypothesis is "tentative."[8]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1380953[/ATTACH]</p><blockquote><p><font size="3">Enlargement of the reverse of the denarius, above (RIC 343), with the AED DIV FAVSTINAE reverse inscription. Two statues on pedestals are visible flanking the staircase. Note the addition of a statue of a central seated figure not previously seen on the temple coins of AD 143.</font></p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1380954[/ATTACH]</p><blockquote><p><font size="3">Enlargement of the reverse of the sestertius (Künker specimen) above detailing the two statues on pedestals flanking the staircase. Note the addition of a statue of a central seated figure not previously seen on the temple coins of AD 143.</font></p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p><b>4. A seated figure has been added to the central cella.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Lastly, a seated figure has been added to the central cella, which is visible on all the examples of the AD 150 coins above. The figure is often rendered without much detail, such as on the AED DIVAE FAVSTINAE denarius, above. However, detailed sestertii demonstrate the figure to be seated, fully draped, and holding a staff in one hand and a small, elongated object – perhaps a statuette – in the other hand. Beckmann notes the "closest parallel to this figure on Faustina's coinage is the type of Aeternitas seated holding a staff and a globe topped by a Phoenix, but there is no guarantee that this type is meant to represent Faustina's cult statue."[9] This reverse type was also struck in AD 150 as part of the 10th death anniversary issue.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1380955[/ATTACH]</p><blockquote><p><font size="3">Faustina I, AD 138-140.</font></p><p><font size="3">Roman orichalcum Sestertius, 26.57 gm, 32.5 mm, 1h.</font></p><p><font size="3">Rome, AD 150.</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv: DIVA FAVSTINA, bare-headed and draped bust, right.</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev: AETERNITAS SC, Aeternitas enthroned left, holding nimbate phoenix on globe in right hand and scepter in left.</font></p><p><font size="3">Refs: RIC 1103Aa, BMCRE 1482; Cohen 15; RCV 4606; Strack 1265.</font></p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>~~~</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Notes</b></p><p><br /></p><p>1. Beckmann, Martin. <i>Diva Faustina: Coinage and Cult in Rome and the Provinces.</i> American Numismatic Society, 2012, pp. 65 ff.</p><p><br /></p><p>2. Ibid., p. 66.</p><p><br /></p><p>3. Lugli, Giuseppe. <i>La Zona Archeologica Di Roma: Il Campidoglio e Il Fori Imperiali: Il Foro Romano: La Regione Fra L'Esquilino e Il Celio Il Palatino: Il Foro Olitorioe Il Foro Boario: Il Tratto Urbano Della Via Appia</i>. Libreria Di Scienze e Lettere, 1924, p. 167. This graffiti is also noted by Beckmann (ibid., p. 66), but he does not cite a source.</p><p><br /></p><p>4. Beckmann, <i>op. cit</i>., pp. 66.</p><p><br /></p><p>5. Ibid., pp. 33-35, 67.</p><p><br /></p><p>6. "Temple of Antoninus and Faustina." <i>Parco Archeologico Del Colosseo</i>, <a href="https://parcocolosseo.it/en/marvels/temple-of-antoninus-and-faustina/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://parcocolosseo.it/en/marvels/temple-of-antoninus-and-faustina/" rel="nofollow">https://parcocolosseo.it/en/marvels/temple-of-antoninus-and-faustina/</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>7. Beckmann, <i>op. cit</i>., p. 68.</p><p><br /></p><p>8. <i>Ibid</i>. For a discussion of the significance of the number of torches in Roman depictions of Ceres and Proserpina, see <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/faustina-friday-%E2%80%93-ceres-or-proserpina.384875/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/faustina-friday-%E2%80%93-ceres-or-proserpina.384875/">this previous installment of Faustina Friday</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>9. <i>Ibid</i>.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 7964796, member: 75937"][B]Faustina Friday – They Had to Put Up a Fence! (Continued)[/B] [B]2. Faustina's carpentum has been installed.[/B] The second difference between the coins of AD 143 and 150 is that there is an object behind the fence in the middle of the stairs which takes the form of a square shape topped by an arched line. There is empty space between the square object and the arched line through which can be seen the temple in the background. This has led Beckmann to interpret this object as the carpentum used in the [I]currus elephantorum[/I] during her funeral as seen head-on.[5] [ATTACH=full]1380950[/ATTACH] [INDENT][SIZE=3]Enlargement of the reverse of the sestertius (Künker specimen) above detailing the object Beckmann has interpreted as representing Faustina's funerary carpentum.[/SIZE][/INDENT] [ATTACH=full]1380951[/ATTACH] [INDENT][SIZE=3]Ꜹ aureus depicting Faustina’s [I]currus elephantorum[/I]. RIC 352, [URL='https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/C_R-12497']British Museum specimen[/URL]. This coin was also issued in AD 150 as part of the 10th anniversary commemoration.[/SIZE][/INDENT] The carpentum was apparently displayed on a specially constructed pedestal at the base of the temple steps. This pedestal is still present today. [ATTACH=full]1380952[/ATTACH] [INDENT][SIZE=3]The Temple of Divus Antoninus and Diva Faustina [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/latest-faustina-senior-is-an-architectural-issue.298655/']still survives[/URL] in the Roman Forum, enclosing the church of San Lorenzo in Miranda. The pedestal for Faustina's carpentum is visible at the base of the steps. Photo courtesy of [I]Parco Archeologico Del Colosseo.[/I][6][/SIZE][/INDENT] The pedestal on which Faustina's carpentum stood was possibly added as part of her death-anniversary celebrations because it does not appear on the earlier temple coins from AD 143.[7] [B]3. Two statues have been placed flanking the staircase.[/B] On the coins of AD 150, when compared to the early coins of AD 143, two statues on pedestals have been added to the wings of the podium on either side of the staircase. These figures are extremely difficult to make out clearly, even on well-preserved sestertii, such as the Künker specimen above. Beckmann interprets them as representing Ceres with one torch and Proserpina with two torches, but cautions that this hypothesis is "tentative."[8] [ATTACH=full]1380953[/ATTACH] [INDENT][SIZE=3]Enlargement of the reverse of the denarius, above (RIC 343), with the AED DIV FAVSTINAE reverse inscription. Two statues on pedestals are visible flanking the staircase. Note the addition of a statue of a central seated figure not previously seen on the temple coins of AD 143.[/SIZE][/INDENT] [ATTACH=full]1380954[/ATTACH] [INDENT][SIZE=3]Enlargement of the reverse of the sestertius (Künker specimen) above detailing the two statues on pedestals flanking the staircase. Note the addition of a statue of a central seated figure not previously seen on the temple coins of AD 143.[/SIZE][/INDENT] [B]4. A seated figure has been added to the central cella.[/B] Lastly, a seated figure has been added to the central cella, which is visible on all the examples of the AD 150 coins above. The figure is often rendered without much detail, such as on the AED DIVAE FAVSTINAE denarius, above. However, detailed sestertii demonstrate the figure to be seated, fully draped, and holding a staff in one hand and a small, elongated object – perhaps a statuette – in the other hand. Beckmann notes the "closest parallel to this figure on Faustina's coinage is the type of Aeternitas seated holding a staff and a globe topped by a Phoenix, but there is no guarantee that this type is meant to represent Faustina's cult statue."[9] This reverse type was also struck in AD 150 as part of the 10th death anniversary issue. [ATTACH=full]1380955[/ATTACH] [INDENT][SIZE=3]Faustina I, AD 138-140. Roman orichalcum Sestertius, 26.57 gm, 32.5 mm, 1h. Rome, AD 150. Obv: DIVA FAVSTINA, bare-headed and draped bust, right. Rev: AETERNITAS SC, Aeternitas enthroned left, holding nimbate phoenix on globe in right hand and scepter in left. Refs: RIC 1103Aa, BMCRE 1482; Cohen 15; RCV 4606; Strack 1265.[/SIZE][/INDENT] ~~~ [B]Notes[/B] 1. Beckmann, Martin. [I]Diva Faustina: Coinage and Cult in Rome and the Provinces.[/I] American Numismatic Society, 2012, pp. 65 ff. 2. Ibid., p. 66. 3. Lugli, Giuseppe. [I]La Zona Archeologica Di Roma: Il Campidoglio e Il Fori Imperiali: Il Foro Romano: La Regione Fra L'Esquilino e Il Celio Il Palatino: Il Foro Olitorioe Il Foro Boario: Il Tratto Urbano Della Via Appia[/I]. Libreria Di Scienze e Lettere, 1924, p. 167. This graffiti is also noted by Beckmann (ibid., p. 66), but he does not cite a source. 4. Beckmann, [I]op. cit[/I]., pp. 66. 5. Ibid., pp. 33-35, 67. 6. "Temple of Antoninus and Faustina." [I]Parco Archeologico Del Colosseo[/I], [URL]https://parcocolosseo.it/en/marvels/temple-of-antoninus-and-faustina/[/URL]. 7. Beckmann, [I]op. cit[/I]., p. 68. 8. [I]Ibid[/I]. For a discussion of the significance of the number of torches in Roman depictions of Ceres and Proserpina, see [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/faustina-friday-%E2%80%93-ceres-or-proserpina.384875/']this previous installment of Faustina Friday[/URL]. 9. [I]Ibid[/I].[/QUOTE]
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