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<p>[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 7784285, member: 75937"]Lovely portrait on that denarius, [USER=80952]@ambr0zie[/USER]!</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You're well on your way to a complete type set of Faustina's early issues! I never get tired of seeing them. That late coin with the dative inscription made for an <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-late-sestertius-of-faustina-ii-with-a-dative-obverse-inscription-previously-unattested.373298/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-late-sestertius-of-faustina-ii-with-a-dative-obverse-inscription-previously-unattested.373298/">interesting thread</a>, didn't it?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I hope your copy of Beckmann's book arrives soon. Its methodology is sound -- die linkage studies of all the aureus types -- and it clarifies several issues about the relative chronology of her issues and in some cases establishes an absolute chronology. I think you'll find it thought-provoking and it may encourage you to re-evaluate the chronology you've assigned to certain issues, just as it has forced a reevaluation of Szaivert's dating for certain issues, such as the Hilaritas issue under Marcus. Beckmann devotes an entire chapter to the implications of the various portraits and hairstyles -- further debunking Fitschen's notion that the hairstyles changed with each pregnancy. He also discusses the empress' children. Since he uses both Ameling and Levick as sources, it doesn't break new ground, but the chronology established by his die study supports the notion that Lucilla was Faustina's second child and was born in AD 149. This argues against Birley and Fittschen's notion that twin boys were born in AD 149 and before Lucilla, but supports the Ameling's chronology outlined in Levick, pp. 116-117. Levick's argument against the birth of these twins is convincing, in my opinion, and I believe Faustina had only 11, not 13 children. Beckmann has an appendix on pp. 111-113 dealing specifically with Faustina's children. According to Ameling/Levick, the child born in AD 150/51 would have been Faustina III. I plan to write a series of articles in the future summarizing the ancient sources and the numismatic portrayals of her children.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>LOL!!!!</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Both lovely coins, with early portraits in fine style!</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes. The theory has been thoroughly debunked, not only by Szaivert and [USER=89514]@curtislclay[/USER], but also by Beckmann.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 7784285, member: 75937"]Lovely portrait on that denarius, [USER=80952]@ambr0zie[/USER]! You're well on your way to a complete type set of Faustina's early issues! I never get tired of seeing them. That late coin with the dative inscription made for an [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-late-sestertius-of-faustina-ii-with-a-dative-obverse-inscription-previously-unattested.373298/']interesting thread[/URL], didn't it? I hope your copy of Beckmann's book arrives soon. Its methodology is sound -- die linkage studies of all the aureus types -- and it clarifies several issues about the relative chronology of her issues and in some cases establishes an absolute chronology. I think you'll find it thought-provoking and it may encourage you to re-evaluate the chronology you've assigned to certain issues, just as it has forced a reevaluation of Szaivert's dating for certain issues, such as the Hilaritas issue under Marcus. Beckmann devotes an entire chapter to the implications of the various portraits and hairstyles -- further debunking Fitschen's notion that the hairstyles changed with each pregnancy. He also discusses the empress' children. Since he uses both Ameling and Levick as sources, it doesn't break new ground, but the chronology established by his die study supports the notion that Lucilla was Faustina's second child and was born in AD 149. This argues against Birley and Fittschen's notion that twin boys were born in AD 149 and before Lucilla, but supports the Ameling's chronology outlined in Levick, pp. 116-117. Levick's argument against the birth of these twins is convincing, in my opinion, and I believe Faustina had only 11, not 13 children. Beckmann has an appendix on pp. 111-113 dealing specifically with Faustina's children. According to Ameling/Levick, the child born in AD 150/51 would have been Faustina III. I plan to write a series of articles in the future summarizing the ancient sources and the numismatic portrayals of her children. LOL!!!! Both lovely coins, with early portraits in fine style! Yes. The theory has been thoroughly debunked, not only by Szaivert and [USER=89514]@curtislclay[/USER], but also by Beckmann.[/QUOTE]
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