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<p>[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 3689697, member: 75937"]I, too, enjoy studying the changes in Faustina's coiffure over the course of the various issues. I believe they represent changes over time and not different officinae. Not surprisingly, coins such as this with the group IV inscription have hairstyles seen on those with the group III inscription and the group V inscription.</p><p><br /></p><p>Those are lovely examples of coins with Mattingly's group IV inscription, FAVSTINA AVG PII AVG FIL. The Trier Landesmuseum specimen has a hairstyle similar to the portraits on coins with the group III inscription, FAVSTINA AVG ANTONINI AVG PII FIL, such as this one from my collection:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/faustina-jr-concordia-standing-left-denarius-jpg.914635/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Faustina II, AD 147-175.</p><p>Roman AR Denarius, 2.84 g, 18.5 mm, 6 h.</p><p>Rome, AD 150-152, under Antoninus Pius.</p><p>Obv: FAVSTINA AVG ANTONINI AVG PII FIL, bare-headed and draped bust right.</p><p>Rev: CONCORDIA, Concordia standing facing, head left, holding skirt and cornucopiae.</p><p>Refs: RIC III 501 (Pius); BMCRE 1078 note (Pius); Cohen/RSC 46; RCV --; CRE 166; ERIC II --.</p><p><br /></p><p>The bottom example has a hairstyle seen on coins with the group V inscription, FAVSTINA AVGVSTA AVG PII F (or FIL), such as my OP coin and others from my collection:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/faustina-jr-diana-as-jpg.808346/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Faustina II, AD 147-175/6.</p><p>Roman Æ as, 9.80 g, 24.1 mm, 6 h.</p><p>Rome, AD 154-156.</p><p>Obv: FAVSTINA AVGVST-TA AVG PII F, bare-headed and draped bust, right.</p><p>Rev: S C, Diana standing left, holding arrow and resting on bow.</p><p>Refs: RIC 1405c*; Cohen 211*; BMC --; RCV --.</p><p>Notes: *RIC and Cohen erroneously report the inscription reads "... PII FIL".</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/faustina-jr-pvdicitia-standing-denarius-jpg.721216/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Faustina II, Augusta AD 147-175, issued under Antoninus Pius</p><p>Roman AR denarius; 2.82 g, 17 mm, 6 h</p><p>Rome, AD 154-156.</p><p>Obv: FAVSTINA AVGVSTA AVG PII F, bare-headed and draped bust right</p><p>Rev: PVDICITIA, Pudicitia standing left, sacrificing over lit altar to left</p><p>Refs: RIC 508a; BMCRE 1092; Cohen 184; RCV 4707; CRE 207.</p><p><br /></p><p>It comes as no surprise that coins bearing the group VI inscription, FAVSTINA AVGVSTA (obverse) and AVGVSTA PII FIL (reverse), have the same hairstyle as those with the group V hairstyle. See these examples from my collection:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/faustina-jr-avgvsti-pii-fil-venus-denarius-jpg.837493/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Faustina II, AD 147-175/6.</p><p>Roman AR denarius, 3.27 g, 17.8 mm, 7 h.</p><p>Rome, AD 157-161.</p><p>Obv: FAVSTINA AVGVSTA, bare-headed and draped bust, right.</p><p>Rev: AVGVSTA PII FIL, Venus standing left, holding Victory on right hand and resting left hand on shield set on helmet.</p><p>Refs: RIC 495a; BMCRE 1099-1101; Cohen/RSC 15; RCV 4700; CRE 224.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/faustina-jr-avgvsti-pii-fil-concordia-sestertius-jpg.943856/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Faustina II, AD 147-175/6.</p><p>Roman orichalcum sestertius, 29.89 g, 31.0 mm, 6 h.</p><p>Rome, AD 157-161.</p><p>Obv: FAVSTINA AVGVSTA, bare-headed and draped bust, right.</p><p>Rev: AVGVSTI PII FIL S C, Concordia standing left, holding patera and cornucopia (and leaning on column?).</p><p>Refs: Strack III 1328.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 3689697, member: 75937"]I, too, enjoy studying the changes in Faustina's coiffure over the course of the various issues. I believe they represent changes over time and not different officinae. Not surprisingly, coins such as this with the group IV inscription have hairstyles seen on those with the group III inscription and the group V inscription. Those are lovely examples of coins with Mattingly's group IV inscription, FAVSTINA AVG PII AVG FIL. The Trier Landesmuseum specimen has a hairstyle similar to the portraits on coins with the group III inscription, FAVSTINA AVG ANTONINI AVG PII FIL, such as this one from my collection: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/faustina-jr-concordia-standing-left-denarius-jpg.914635/[/IMG] Faustina II, AD 147-175. Roman AR Denarius, 2.84 g, 18.5 mm, 6 h. Rome, AD 150-152, under Antoninus Pius. Obv: FAVSTINA AVG ANTONINI AVG PII FIL, bare-headed and draped bust right. Rev: CONCORDIA, Concordia standing facing, head left, holding skirt and cornucopiae. Refs: RIC III 501 (Pius); BMCRE 1078 note (Pius); Cohen/RSC 46; RCV --; CRE 166; ERIC II --. The bottom example has a hairstyle seen on coins with the group V inscription, FAVSTINA AVGVSTA AVG PII F (or FIL), such as my OP coin and others from my collection: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/faustina-jr-diana-as-jpg.808346/[/IMG] Faustina II, AD 147-175/6. Roman Æ as, 9.80 g, 24.1 mm, 6 h. Rome, AD 154-156. Obv: FAVSTINA AVGVST-TA AVG PII F, bare-headed and draped bust, right. Rev: S C, Diana standing left, holding arrow and resting on bow. Refs: RIC 1405c*; Cohen 211*; BMC --; RCV --. Notes: *RIC and Cohen erroneously report the inscription reads "... PII FIL". [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/faustina-jr-pvdicitia-standing-denarius-jpg.721216/[/IMG] Faustina II, Augusta AD 147-175, issued under Antoninus Pius Roman AR denarius; 2.82 g, 17 mm, 6 h Rome, AD 154-156. Obv: FAVSTINA AVGVSTA AVG PII F, bare-headed and draped bust right Rev: PVDICITIA, Pudicitia standing left, sacrificing over lit altar to left Refs: RIC 508a; BMCRE 1092; Cohen 184; RCV 4707; CRE 207. It comes as no surprise that coins bearing the group VI inscription, FAVSTINA AVGVSTA (obverse) and AVGVSTA PII FIL (reverse), have the same hairstyle as those with the group V hairstyle. See these examples from my collection: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/faustina-jr-avgvsti-pii-fil-venus-denarius-jpg.837493/[/IMG] Faustina II, AD 147-175/6. Roman AR denarius, 3.27 g, 17.8 mm, 7 h. Rome, AD 157-161. Obv: FAVSTINA AVGVSTA, bare-headed and draped bust, right. Rev: AVGVSTA PII FIL, Venus standing left, holding Victory on right hand and resting left hand on shield set on helmet. Refs: RIC 495a; BMCRE 1099-1101; Cohen/RSC 15; RCV 4700; CRE 224. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/faustina-jr-avgvsti-pii-fil-concordia-sestertius-jpg.943856/[/IMG] Faustina II, AD 147-175/6. Roman orichalcum sestertius, 29.89 g, 31.0 mm, 6 h. Rome, AD 157-161. Obv: FAVSTINA AVGVSTA, bare-headed and draped bust, right. Rev: AVGVSTI PII FIL S C, Concordia standing left, holding patera and cornucopia (and leaning on column?). Refs: Strack III 1328.[/QUOTE]
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