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<p>[QUOTE="StevePM, post: 4998505, member: 114739"]This does sound suspicious Ian - although I suspect if there is any foul play going on here it will be extremely difficult to prove. I am not an expert in the workings of online auctions, but have looked into this a little after an unusually long streak of always winning lots at my maximum pre-bid with a particular auction house. In the end though I concluded it was just a coincidence. At the time I searched on this forum for similar topics and here are a couple of threads from the past year or so where people have discussed somewhat similar situations:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/getting-tired-of-auction-houses.353645/page-2#post-4008361" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/getting-tired-of-auction-houses.353645/page-2#post-4008361">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/getting-tired-of-auction-houses.353645/page-2#post-4008361</a></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/cng-112-mr-shill-revealed.346679/page-2#post-3707989" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/cng-112-mr-shill-revealed.346679/page-2#post-3707989">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/cng-112-mr-shill-revealed.346679/page-2#post-3707989</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I hope these links to specific posts work</p><p><br /></p><p>I am sharing these links because I have looked into this before, but do not wish to support or deny the information given - merely just share it with you. It is of course tempting in a situation like this to imagine we have been hard done by. On the other hand, I would assume that in the long term most auction houses have much more to lose than gain by using these practices. For what it's worth, while I do trust auction houses, I now take the same approach as you and will only bid on auctions live and not place pre-bids. That means I miss a lot of coins that sell when I am working but it gives me peace of mind that I'm in control of administering my own max bid.</p><p><br /></p><p>If only you could contact the underbidder and sell it to them for 170 and just take the loss of 10 <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="StevePM, post: 4998505, member: 114739"]This does sound suspicious Ian - although I suspect if there is any foul play going on here it will be extremely difficult to prove. I am not an expert in the workings of online auctions, but have looked into this a little after an unusually long streak of always winning lots at my maximum pre-bid with a particular auction house. In the end though I concluded it was just a coincidence. At the time I searched on this forum for similar topics and here are a couple of threads from the past year or so where people have discussed somewhat similar situations: [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/getting-tired-of-auction-houses.353645/page-2#post-4008361[/URL] [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/cng-112-mr-shill-revealed.346679/page-2#post-3707989[/URL] I hope these links to specific posts work I am sharing these links because I have looked into this before, but do not wish to support or deny the information given - merely just share it with you. It is of course tempting in a situation like this to imagine we have been hard done by. On the other hand, I would assume that in the long term most auction houses have much more to lose than gain by using these practices. For what it's worth, while I do trust auction houses, I now take the same approach as you and will only bid on auctions live and not place pre-bids. That means I miss a lot of coins that sell when I am working but it gives me peace of mind that I'm in control of administering my own max bid. If only you could contact the underbidder and sell it to them for 170 and just take the loss of 10 :)[/QUOTE]
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