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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 3559183, member: 19463&quot;]I always regret causing confusion and regularly post my wishes that folks dont copy attributions without seeing the original listings.&nbsp; That is why most of my posts do not include full attributions.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>It is quite possible to collect and enjoy these things without reference numbers.&nbsp; I like RIC for the way they point out what exists as far as they know.&nbsp; The OP coin is an 82 with bearded, bareheaded barbarian.&nbsp; Mine is not since RIC 82 specifies those characteristics and I have no beard (but do have pigtails).&nbsp; CT&#039;s own Randy has turned up quite a number of little things like his swirly shield which strike me as equally noteworthy candidates for description in RIC.&nbsp; If I were the one writing this section of RIC today, I would run a list of characteristics found on horsemen (and soldiers&#039; boots, horses rumps, assorted dots and things I know I have forgotten this morning) but I would not assign them number level importance unless I determined that characteristic to have meaning I could explain (e.g. weight standard change).</p><p><br /></p><p>I can&#039;t read chrsmat71&#039;s coin well enough to assign it an RIC number. I see something after CONS but what?</p><p><br /></p><p>The Falling Horseman type was one of the first two pages on my website. </p><p><a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/notsev.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/notsev.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/notsev.html</a></p><p>The purpose of that page was to discuss Victor Failmezger&#039;s belief that some horsemen showed the use of stirrups.&nbsp; Those of us who thought we saw this were called stupid by people who knew that Western Europeans did not use stirrups that early. We believed (I still do) that the dies were cut by either veterans from the wars who observed a people with stirrups or possibly even by captive barbarians themselves pressed into service at the mint due to their talents. We will never know for certain but we do most certainly know that any expert who believes that their PhD based on past studies of slightly related subjects has made them all knowing in all things is nothing less than a danger to science.&nbsp; I also believe that the die cutters had a lot more freedom to design, within certain parameters, the details of their experience.&nbsp; The next generation of scholars will expand or knowledge on what is seen on the clothing, hair, weapons, tack etc. but they will not achieve all of the answers.&nbsp; We value our catalogs and memorize their listings but we need to remember that science (numismatic and other) is a journey toward understanding and not a matter of forcing what we see into boxes built from past theories.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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