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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Nerva, post: 2780713, member: 87761&quot;]I&#039;ll think about the substantive points and maybe respond later. But I was just thinking about how to debate this on the way to work, because it&#039;s easy to fall into misunderstandings and caricatures. I think we can all agree that there were lots of &#039;causal factors&#039; at work and none was sufficient on its own. So in practice I think a lot of the debate is about which factors are under-rated and which are over-rated. And I suspect that in academic circles there is a tendency to downplay the factors Ken mentions because cosmopolitan academics tend to downplay the importance of national identity (a lot of us have been taken by surprise in the past year or so!). I&#039;m open to the idea that these factors are under-rated in academic studies. But I suspect they may be over-rated in wider culture, and I suspect that &#039;cultural identity&#039; would mean something very different in a Roman context. But I&#039;m going to think a bit more about it before replying further...[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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