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<p>[QUOTE="jloring, post: 1931149, member: 15518"]You have a good memory... and yes, I believe the CFe Group was (and is) a bunch of power hungry, paranoid, gestapo-like glory seekers who believe their one goal in life is protecting us all from our own inability to make a determination as to whether a coin is genuine or not. The problem with this group (and why they got in trouble initially) is reporting auctions they believed questionable... and some years back (before eBay changed the rules) they were able to email bidders with their concerns. Well, some of the listings they targeted were not fakes... and eBay came down hard on them. Auction "interference" is a big no-no, and it got the founder banned from the group. Later, they made this group private, believing the forgers were utilizing information posted to improve the quality of their fakes.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also stated that, in theory, this group could be beneficial to the numismatic community and to the buyers that utilize eBay as their main source of coins. However (and I believe eBay now agrees), the approach they took was wrong... so now they pay the price.</p><p><br /></p><p>There is little if anything eBay can do as a venue to prevent the spread of counterfeits... they have neither the personnel nor the knowledge to review every listing and attempt a determination from photos that often lacks quality. The best they can do is look at the listings that are reported and pull the obvious ones. And as suggested above, possibly extend the timeframe on buyer protection to allow a buyer an adequate amount of time for verification (which often exceeds the 30 day period).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="jloring, post: 1931149, member: 15518"]You have a good memory... and yes, I believe the CFe Group was (and is) a bunch of power hungry, paranoid, gestapo-like glory seekers who believe their one goal in life is protecting us all from our own inability to make a determination as to whether a coin is genuine or not. The problem with this group (and why they got in trouble initially) is reporting auctions they believed questionable... and some years back (before eBay changed the rules) they were able to email bidders with their concerns. Well, some of the listings they targeted were not fakes... and eBay came down hard on them. Auction "interference" is a big no-no, and it got the founder banned from the group. Later, they made this group private, believing the forgers were utilizing information posted to improve the quality of their fakes. I also stated that, in theory, this group could be beneficial to the numismatic community and to the buyers that utilize eBay as their main source of coins. However (and I believe eBay now agrees), the approach they took was wrong... so now they pay the price. There is little if anything eBay can do as a venue to prevent the spread of counterfeits... they have neither the personnel nor the knowledge to review every listing and attempt a determination from photos that often lacks quality. The best they can do is look at the listings that are reported and pull the obvious ones. And as suggested above, possibly extend the timeframe on buyer protection to allow a buyer an adequate amount of time for verification (which often exceeds the 30 day period).[/QUOTE]
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