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<p>[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 545375, member: 6370"]As I have said before, so often people say 'use a dealer with a good reputation' or 'know the dealer'...use a trusted dealer...CNG is probably considered a trusted dealer to many I would think.</p><p> </p><p>Thanks to the CFDL, Here we have a doctored Lipanoff fake domitian minerva denarius being sold by CNG with an estimate of 150 USD.</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=138383" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=138383" rel="nofollow">http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=138383</a></p><p> </p><p>Here we have a fake Lysimachos Gold Stater sold by CNG for 1850.00 (again, now on coin archives)</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://imagedb.coinarchives.com/img/cng/064/enlarged/640154.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=7xQG/Kco~x~g8" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=7xQG/Kco~x~g8" rel="nofollow">http://www.forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=7xQG/Kco~x~g8</a>=</p><p> </p><p>same coin linked above being sold legally as a 'copy' (1850.00 for a copy). This coin was condemned as fake well before it was sold but still passed through to be sold and guaranteed authentic</p><p> </p><p>Now CNG is a well known long standing coin seller and one would think such fakes would not pass their inspection but this is just a few found to be sold by them, worst part is that their auctions help feed the coinarchives database so this little fake piece of crap will be added to that valuable database. </p><p> </p><p>Makes one wonder if they know and just trying to unloaded it or if they just let it slip...but if this slipped by, how many others. If people trust them to weed out fakes...will buyers even take the time to confirm that what they bought is real? Or will they just take CNGs word for it because they are a trusted well known seller. Of the ones that are sold, how to let the buyer know they got the fake? CNG is made aware...will they make it right? The Denarius is not sold, we will see if it is removed...probably will be...but if several people had not discovered it, it would have slipped through and sold...</p><p> </p><p>Just goes to show that the advice 'use a trusted well established dealer with a good reputation' is not enough....it doesnt mean you do not perform due diligence regardless of who is selling.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 545375, member: 6370"]As I have said before, so often people say 'use a dealer with a good reputation' or 'know the dealer'...use a trusted dealer...CNG is probably considered a trusted dealer to many I would think. Thanks to the CFDL, Here we have a doctored Lipanoff fake domitian minerva denarius being sold by CNG with an estimate of 150 USD. [URL]http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=138383[/URL] Here we have a fake Lysimachos Gold Stater sold by CNG for 1850.00 (again, now on coin archives) [IMG]http://imagedb.coinarchives.com/img/cng/064/enlarged/640154.jpg[/IMG] [URL]http://www.forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=7xQG/Kco~x~g8[/URL]= same coin linked above being sold legally as a 'copy' (1850.00 for a copy). This coin was condemned as fake well before it was sold but still passed through to be sold and guaranteed authentic Now CNG is a well known long standing coin seller and one would think such fakes would not pass their inspection but this is just a few found to be sold by them, worst part is that their auctions help feed the coinarchives database so this little fake piece of crap will be added to that valuable database. Makes one wonder if they know and just trying to unloaded it or if they just let it slip...but if this slipped by, how many others. If people trust them to weed out fakes...will buyers even take the time to confirm that what they bought is real? Or will they just take CNGs word for it because they are a trusted well known seller. Of the ones that are sold, how to let the buyer know they got the fake? CNG is made aware...will they make it right? The Denarius is not sold, we will see if it is removed...probably will be...but if several people had not discovered it, it would have slipped through and sold... Just goes to show that the advice 'use a trusted well established dealer with a good reputation' is not enough....it doesnt mean you do not perform due diligence regardless of who is selling.[/QUOTE]
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