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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2128473, member: 19463"]We try too hard to make things look possibly good when it it obvious that they are not. This week there was a coin on eBay that attracted my attention. </p><p>(You can search for the sale if you wish - I will not be advertising for this guy.)</p><p>While identified as Septimius Severus and selling for the correct Septimius price of $41, it was a cast fake from a genuine Pescennius Niger. The seller is on the published fake seller lists and his other coins look pretty obvious fake - mostly diestruck from modern dies but this one was of correct style. </p><p><br /></p><p>Looking over the bunch he sold recently, the most obvious is another 'Septimius Severus' which went for $36. It was clearly a Divus Pertinax. You will find it on the fake lists since it is not a cast but from known fake dies. If real in that grade, $3600 would be closer. </p><p><br /></p><p>I believe the trick here is to make the bidder think that the seller had misidentified a rare coin and it might be bought for a Septimius price. I know there are those who figure that a chance of getting something for next to nothing is worth a tenth the price of a good one. </p><p><br /></p><p>If anyone really looked at those two coins and believed that they are Septimius Severus and genuine, I'd be very surprised. Someone would have bid higher if they really thought they were genuine Pescennius Niger and Divus Pertinax. If the coins actually sold (not a shill), they will probably be resold to someone else who knows less. </p><p><br /></p><p>After you determine that a seller is on the fake seller lists or that a substantial enough number of his offerings are fakes so he belongs on the lists, stop looking at his other offerings. Nothing said, no evidence presented, offsets their being known sellers of fakes. Even if they did have a real coin, do you really want to send them your money. If you want a fake, buy it from someone who is selling it as a fake. I really would like to have had that cast Pescennius Niger for my 'Black Museum'. It started at $2.25 + $10 postage. I wonder if the winner received the coin shown in the photo?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2128473, member: 19463"]We try too hard to make things look possibly good when it it obvious that they are not. This week there was a coin on eBay that attracted my attention. (You can search for the sale if you wish - I will not be advertising for this guy.) While identified as Septimius Severus and selling for the correct Septimius price of $41, it was a cast fake from a genuine Pescennius Niger. The seller is on the published fake seller lists and his other coins look pretty obvious fake - mostly diestruck from modern dies but this one was of correct style. Looking over the bunch he sold recently, the most obvious is another 'Septimius Severus' which went for $36. It was clearly a Divus Pertinax. You will find it on the fake lists since it is not a cast but from known fake dies. If real in that grade, $3600 would be closer. I believe the trick here is to make the bidder think that the seller had misidentified a rare coin and it might be bought for a Septimius price. I know there are those who figure that a chance of getting something for next to nothing is worth a tenth the price of a good one. If anyone really looked at those two coins and believed that they are Septimius Severus and genuine, I'd be very surprised. Someone would have bid higher if they really thought they were genuine Pescennius Niger and Divus Pertinax. If the coins actually sold (not a shill), they will probably be resold to someone else who knows less. After you determine that a seller is on the fake seller lists or that a substantial enough number of his offerings are fakes so he belongs on the lists, stop looking at his other offerings. Nothing said, no evidence presented, offsets their being known sellers of fakes. Even if they did have a real coin, do you really want to send them your money. If you want a fake, buy it from someone who is selling it as a fake. I really would like to have had that cast Pescennius Niger for my 'Black Museum'. It started at $2.25 + $10 postage. I wonder if the winner received the coin shown in the photo?[/QUOTE]
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