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Message:: [QUOTE="Boss, post: 541064, member: 15110"]Sorry jumping in late (this is a great post). I am assuming this coin is one of G Garmuli's as it is listed with his other coins. Some one could PM him as he is one this site occasionally and ask if that's his coin. He is pretty forward about this stuff. I believe the Gorbecht dollar is definitely the same coin. The mark below the first "L" in dollar and the mark below the beark. Look closely at those two spots.  I believe he is very, very good at this and I am sure has perfected these techniques, and would therefore do this to a 4 figure coin as he knows how it will turn out. I would never try this though, I have used MS 70 on pre-1982 cents which looked much nicer after treatment. I think the coin looks better, personally, though it removed the toning and revealed more nicks. I agree with Lehigh and Jim about the AT and NT debate. I like attractive coins more than any other types of coin. I like his suggestion re: Holdering the coins and putting questionable toning and letting the market decide.[/QUOTE]