Fake quarter eagle

There's a difference between being rude and honest, sir; this is the latter. With that said though, I forgot about the blatantly obvious "1893-S" Morgan fake you suggested an inexperienced buyer go take a look at even though it had already been, beyond any and all reasonable doubt, proven fake. I guess I was wrong though... this one was strike four, not three; you have my apologies as I only recalled the gold flubs. And just so we are clear, the other was the Charlotte quarter you deemed fake after comparing it to a coin of a different date with a different reverse.

If you only wished to discuss your position that it (now) "looks fake", why is the title of the thread "fake quarter eagle"?

Oh, and a gift for you from the straw man...

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/bag-lot-purchase-look-what-i-found.270955/#post-2280544

 

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The Charlotte coin I questioned because because the hole would have obliterated the c on a 47 coin.....later in the thread I posted a pic of a 42 and the c was in a different position and would have only been partially obliterated.....lay that point I agreed the coin was real.....so please get you facts straight.

The rouble was still worth 400 because the coin I felt was only worth melt. So I was still right about the value.....please get your facts straights again

 

Except for the PCGS slab that mine is in, it looks the same to me. Not a fake.

 

Seriously, stop... the FACTS behind the 41-C were explained to long before you posted a photo of the correct date, so don't act as if it was all you. In fact, I called out your BS in that thread as well. You also stated his coin "could only be a 41-P", which is one of the great American rarities. Remember this?

As for the ruble, you're lying... your post had nothing to do with melt value; need I quote you, sir? "Looks real to me... should be worth about $400"... and you expect people to believe this was about melt? Oh, and melt value on that coin is a tad over $250 iirc, not $400; care to explain this one too?

Yeah... but I'm the one who needs to get his facts straight (roll eyes here)

 

He is not saying those are indicators on a counterfeit, he is saying they are indicators on a genuine 1911-D. This coin is real, period. If you do not know what you are talking about, don't say anything.

 

I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I've yet to see a known counterfeit 1911-D with both the obverse wire rim and reverse scallops in place as the coin linked here has. The shelving around the south/southwest reverse rim is interesting, but has been seen before:

http://coins.ha.com/itm/indian-quar...9-3374.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

To my mind this one's genuine.

 

this is what I said at the end of the thread....the C was not so obvious in the photo....

"I did manage to find a 1841c

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http://www.ebay.com/itm/1841-C-2-50...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
With this I can see where the C should be....and its on the coin....

I also saw where you bought this coin......the ad was listed wrongly.....and the photos were terrible......no wonder it went for that price. Can't even see the C in his photo. It was a good grab"

there is no confusion here that I admit the coin is real....

as far as the melt on the rouble...you are correct....the melt is in the 250 neighborhood....my mistake...I have about (5) 5 rouble slabbed coins...and I remember that when I bought them I calculated melt at around 200....so I doubled it for the 10 rouble.....but gold was around mid 1500's at that time....

but the coin wasnt determined as a fake.....two people question the lettering...one said fake.....looking at it still doesn't look all that bad....I'm not convinced it's a fake....which brings up another point....you're trying to ascertain the authenticity of a coin from a photo.....for a bad fake...it's easy to see...but since I and probably most here haven't seen all the fakes like a grader would....you just can't say for certain if a coin is fake or real from a photograph....

you really cant see the luster well on a photo.....some photos are a bit blurry...the lighting is difficult for a coin to show properly.....when you get the coin in hand it doesn't look a whole lot like the photo.....

 

This coin is real. And if you are not certain it is fake, do not make a post saying it is.

 

I will not post another thread like this unless I am certain of authenticity......

I can see the consensus is that it is real....and if you believe this then you should bid this...this coin has a huge upside....

 

I AM bidding on it. With this coin, condition can be a huge swing in price. The only question is what it will grade, and if it has been cleaned.

 

This coin is NOT fake. It IS the real thing. There are slight differences between a "strong" and a "weak" D. Mine is PCGS graded. This is an expensive coin. Some of the members that have replied to this thread are dealers and collectors of this series. I have the entire set so you can count me a serious collector of them. I love the design. I've been very quiet on this as I've had a rough day and it's been a looooong one too. I'm going home, shower eat and go to bed as I need the sleep. But I'm saying this for the last time. IT'S REAL!!!!!!! I'd bid on this myself but I need the money for a few expensive Peace Dollars that I do not have, only 3 to go and they are not key dates, just expensive for the grade I want. Have a nice evening.

 

He says the coins is in fabulous condition....but why not ask him if he thinks the coin has been cleaned

 

The only "fakes" I know of this quality are the Mideast fakes , there are tells on the 3 known fakes none of which are on yours . I'd buy this coin with no problem . If I were you I'd get some books on Counterfeit gold and silver and start reading all the fake threads here on CT and some other forums . There are people who do know what they're talking about and listening is a great way to learn .

 

Notice how as soon as he gets pointed out that he is wrong, he goes on the offensive and gets personal...... interesting...

 

of course you'd get upset.....if I said three strikes your out....or four...then lying....accused of things I never said....

 

i can't tell from this point on.

 

Actually, there are five that I'm aware of, and keep in mind this is out of only 50 or so posts, but let's not concern ourselves with reality when it's more important that you get to play the victim. You've repeatedly told me to get my facts straight, yet when presented with just that in return, you spin it into something else, but should be of no surprise considering the source. It's sad to the point of pitiful that clearly you think it okay for you to ignorantly call this seller's genuine coin a fake, but not okay for me to point out your exceptionally poor track record on such matters. Hypocrisy much?

When time allows, just for you, I'll go back and quote you, dear sir; perhaps your memory is as poor as your eyesight.

 

Here we go again. Another day, another comeback.

 

Books man... I generally agree with you and all, but why is it like nearly every time I see you in a thread you are in an argument with someone. They are attracted to you like a moth to a flame or something.