Fake Peace Dollars

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Gregg, Jul 18, 2018.

  1. Gregg

    Gregg Monster Toning

    #1: 1922: Weight is about 24.86g and when you flip it over the reverse is upside down.

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    #2: 1927: Weight: 19.0g


    #3: 1921-D Weight: 19g, also missing the words 'We' on the obverse, and of course, the fact it is the super rare D mintmark.


    As a learning exercise, I'd be interested in any other visual cues you can come up with to identify these as fakes. As an aside, none of these were sold to me as anything other than fakes - they weren't advertised as real.
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    TONYBRONX Well-Known Member

    Its To bad that the hobby is so afected and getting so many countifets these days, you have to hire a detective to buy a coin these days. DAM SHAME!
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  4. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    They appear very grainy and mushy details. Not a bad job on artificial aging.
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  5. Prez2

    Prez2 Well-Known Member

    Looks like cast via the first couple of pics or is that just the pics?
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  6. Clawcoins

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  7. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Please don't send potential business their way with links. :(
  8. green18

    green18 Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    I'd stick to 'junk' boxes..........they're more honest.
  9. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    rats .. can't remove it now.
  10. calcol

    calcol Supporter! Supporter

    Yeah, the roughness makes it look cast. Inspection of edge might show where sprue was removed.

  11. frankjg

    frankjg Well-Known Member

    I find that all the artificial toning comes off as super fake looking. It reminds me of when Disney want to make something in their park look old. It just has that cartoon aged effect.
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  12. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Agree with all those above. First clue is the grainy surfaces. Then the artificial toning wrecks it........ The thing that disturbs me about making that statement on a public forum is that the creeps that create these things can learn from this thread too. I wish I could post what I would like to do to these creeps.
  13. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Yeah, because it's not like anyone knows how to google. ;)

    If one looks up "fake Peace dollars" and then clicks the shopping tag, there's all sorts available from DHgate, straight from China. I do agree with the sentiment, Jeff, but we're now long past the point where keeping quiet matters. If anything I think we'd be wise to address this frequently as a warning while giving tips on how to identify the garbage.
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  14. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Instead of focusing on little things, I believe it best to handle as many examples of the real deal as is possible, at least when it comes to such poor fakes. Even a quick look immediately gives each away.
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  15. APX78

    APX78 Active Member

    Always sad to see fakes.:(
  16. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    1927Eagle head angle looks different from other 2. Also T bottom in liberty is longer on the 27
  17. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    One of the first things I see are the sharp rims. They're not flat, but tapered up thinner at the top.
  18. Gregg

    Gregg Monster Toning

    Thank you for your thoughts, people.
    Every little bit helps.
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