Fake PCGS Morgan?

Here's the best I could do, with Photoshop, to pull the CC from the photos posted on eBay. You can jus t see the CC with the 2nd C showing a little better than the first. I always try to make my photos for eBay the best possible, but these photos did sell the coin.



Ben

 

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...or he is just a bad photographer. When I see photos like this, I don't automatically assume the seller is trying to do something deceiving. We have seen tons of bad photos posted here. But, I'm not going to risk my hard earned money on it.

 

I thought I was giving the seller the benefit of the doubt with the "or" portion of that sentence. Maybe it wasn't clear. I wouldn't think it's that difficult to take a focused picture of a coin if you're going to try and sell it. I've seen many photos that were better than that taken with an iPhone.

 

IMO it is fine...horrible pics of course but everything else looks fine. Of course its hard to tell with it not in hand not to mention the fantastic pics...
I dont see anything that would make me believe its bad...common date CC in decent grade...

 

I agree...it shouldn't be that hard. I think at the very least you lose prospective buyers because of this issue.

I know some people really struggle with photos though. I have seen a ton of bad pics posted to CT over the years.

 

I' not the best coin photographer either. I'm getting ready to sell of some of my MS64 Morgans. I plan to use the auction pictues which are clear and show the coin well.

I agree that having out of focused pictures will only narrow your audience. In 99.99% of the cases, if the photos are blurry, I won't give the coin a passing glance.

 

Neither will I.

 

We're definitely on the same page.

 

I'm guilty as charged ive sold some beauties here and my pics suck everyone more pleased in hand if I was selling high end coins I'd get someone to photo em for me

 

If the photos are blurry, just contact the seller via eBay and ask for additional photos. I have done this lots of times. Sometimes the seller doesn't respond (his loss), but they usually do since they want more people to bid on the coin. I have actually had sellers send me pictures directly but not post them on their auction. This gives me an edge in my opinion. No harm in asking....

 

Good point. I have asked for additional pictures, but with the vast amount of coins available in many places, I choose to spend my time differently.

 

would anyone have any photo(s) of a fake pcgs holder or ones regarding them ( or any other coin holders ) ...

that they can share ...

 

Yeah here's some Professional Chinese Grading Service holders. CT administrators please invent the "dislike" button for this post...

 

So how about some diagnostics for detecting these? The first thing I'd ask, what is the weight on those dollars cum holders compared to genuine PCGS slabbed ones?

 

Agreed...I'd love to know some of the specifics of detecting these fake holders.

 

the devil in the details =/

 

The coins need not be fake, just the holders. Grade an MS63 as MS66 and you have upside $$$$, especially if newbies are buying them on ebay.

 

This here is a great link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coinforgeryebay/sets/72157623424189692/

 

Or, you slip a problem coin into a good holder. Perhaps you take a genuine but tooled and cleaned 1889-CC Morgan and put it in a MS63 holder. Big price difference there.

 

In theory, yes, but not sure how you would slip a coin into a good holder. Never seen that done - would think the good holder would be destroyed, no?