Fake or Real?

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  1. Exodus_gear

    Exodus_gear Active Member

    Still learning to spot them so need a bit of help figuring these two out . I want to say they're real deal but not 100%
     

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  3. Ryro

    Ryro You'll never be lovelier than you are now... Supporter

    I'll tell ya if you change your Avatar pic. Jk... Sort of.
    But seriously, how much do they weigh? Where'd they come from? And better pics would be a plus.
     
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  4. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter Cogito Ergo Sum

    They look authentic to me.
     
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  5. Julius Germanicus

    Julius Germanicus Supporter! Supporter

    IVLIA SOAEMIAS AVG / VENVS CAELESTIS
    Denarius, Rome AD 220-222
    RIC 241

    IVLIA MAMAEA AVG / FELICITAS PVBLICA
    Denarius, Rome AD 230
    RIC 338

    both genuine and not typical forger´s material. The Mamaea is quite nice...
     
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    Can't tell you if yours are real; we need more info and better photos. Here are mine:

    Mamaea FELICITAS PVBLICA seated Denarius.jpg
    Soaemias Venus Caelestis Standing Denarius.jpg
     
  7. Exodus_gear

    Exodus_gear Active Member

    Sorry for the crummy pics, my phone is rather old. Here are some better ones. Also I did weigh them out. The first one better looking coin weighs in at 2.8g and the second weights in at 3.1. I used some scales we have here at my lab to weigh them out.
     

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  8. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Could they be limes issues? They look a bit dark.

    I have a dark Julia Mamaea that I am pretty sure is a "limes" issue - it appears to have been plated (so maybe fourree?). Julia's face has been gouged too (damnatio memoriae?):

    Julia Mamaea Damnatio Den (1).JPG

    Julia Mamaea Æ Denarius
    (Mother of Severus Alex.)
    (222-235 A.D.)
    Rome Mint

    IVLIA MAMAEA AVG, diademed & draped bust right / FELICITAS PVBLICA, Felicitas standing, holding caduceus, arm on column.
    RIC 335; RSC 17; BMC 483
    (2.44 grams / 19 mm)

    Note: Possible Damnatio Memoriae, Julia Mamaea, after she was murdered with her son Severus Alexander, was blamed for bad management, greed, meddling,
    etc. Therefore, according to Livius.org "The Senate pronounced a damnatio
    memoriae over Mamaea."
     
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  9. Exodus_gear

    Exodus_gear Active Member

    Hope those are better
     

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  10. Exodus_gear

    Exodus_gear Active Member

    I did cross reference the weights against info listed online and on this forum from a previous post. They both do appear to be within the allowable range of weight for what they are.
     
  11. gsimonel

    gsimonel Supporter! Supporter

    There is no obvious reason to suspect the authenticity of your coins from these photos. The dark color is just the result of the high level of bronze in the billon mixture.
     
  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Mine:

    MAMAEA

    RI Julia Mamaea AR denarius  Pietas incense altar perfume Seaby 48.JPG
    Julia Mamaea Ar. denarius, IVLIA MAMAEA AVG, diad. dr. bust r., rev., PIETAS AVGVSTAE, Pietas stg. front, hd. l. dripping grains of incense into lighted altar and holding a box of perfume (Seaby, 48).
    3.4 g
    Ex: CJMartin

    SOAEMIAS
    RI Julia Soaemias 218-222 CE AR Den Venus Caelestis star RIC IV 241.jpg
    RI Julia Soaemias 218-222 CE AR Den Venus Caelestis star RIC IV 241
    Ex: @Mat
     
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