Fake NGC coins on sale tonight in USA

http://www.icollector.com/item.aspx?i=25766403


https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/3974867005/

BK auctions are selling fake Panda's on their sale tonight in NGC holders......apart from the crappy coin they can't even copy the security strip under the bar code.

So the links show the coin for sale and the same NGC number on the NGC database.

Informed them...........but who knows if it makes any difference.

 

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The security strip isn't visible under all lighting conditions. If that's a fake holder and coin, that's pretty scary.

 

The coin looks bad and under the bar code is written NGC is small letters and this one has no letters at all.......if you compare the links they look nothing like each other.

 

Honestly I don't mind fake slabs. Fake coins though...

 

Both fake LOL

 

Same coin and slab in both images. Nothing fake about it.

 

I'm sorry, but this isn't cutting it. If you want to label a seller's coin as a fake and possibly hurt his reputation in the process, you need to back it up with facts. Thus far I'm not seeing anything beyond questionable assumption to at best conjecture.

 

I don't know about the coin, but I'm 99% convinced the slab is real. And, if the slab is real but the coin is fake, that's NGC's issue, not the seller's.

 

You DO realize the security strip looks different, and shows different things, under different light, right? If that is your reason for calling it out as a fake, you should be embarrassed.

 

@marbury518 You need to fix your fake report.

 

So, I looked the coin up on NGC, and what do you know, the marks line up exactly. Good coin, good holder.

 

And look at where the frosting is missing on the building. Matches perfectly.

 

@marbury518 .... Which of these holders is the fake? Hint, I took the pictures about 2 seconds apart.. the only difference is the angle of the light.

 

They both look the same as the ones I have with that label. I was wandering though if you could show the coin? I love those Indian Head coins. I have to have at least one in my lifetime.

 

Kudos, Mr. Witten!

I used different pups in my own comparison, but this certainly works. Thanks for posting.



This kind of thing happens, we know, but hopefully the OP will see this as an example of why many (not just him) on this board need to STOP jumping to conclusions. While I've no doubt this was innocent, damage can still come from it, and is why everyone would be wise to start following the golden rule.

 

I agree. People are pretty quick to scream "fake!" sometimes. I wouldn't have posted the direct link or named the seller if I only thought it was fake and didn't have direct evidence.

 

It's very easy to see huge differences in a picture taken with diffuse probably fluorescent light vs. direct like such as an Ikea Jansko....

 

Yeah, I'm late to the party, but those are the same coin. NGC's free pictures online are terrible and proof coins are very, very (go on for 100 verys) difficult to image. NGC price guide for this coin is $110, sold for $120. I can't imagine it being worth it to fake, risking the reputation of your auction service.

 

NGC's images are designed not to show the coin in it's best view, but as diagnostic images. Charmy and others have posted pictures of the photo room. They use diffusers at a 45 degree angle to create a very flat light.

 

Any way you could get me a link or a closer idea where to find that? I'd dearly love to see NGC's imaging setup. I've seen Heritage's, and it explains why their images look the way they do, but NGC's results are actually kind of difficult to reach (in a downward sense) with professional equipment.