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Message:: [QUOTE="Ed23, post: 2046970, member: 32117"]Well, I have in my box of counterfeit coins I have common date Lincoln cents, so I figure they must be using some of these to train young "artists" in the craft, as any other reason makes little sense. Yes, some fakes stick out like sore thumbs; bad color, too thick, etc. But as for who the Chinese are fooling, it's new collectors, investors with no background in rare coins, and younger kids. It's obviously paying off or they would not do it. But when one collector sent me four "uncirculated" 1804 Draped Bust Dollars it became clear that many buyers out there don't know much about the coins they were acquiring. "If it's for sale on the internet it's real" equates to "it you read it on the internet it's true" to too many people shopping out there.[/QUOTE]