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<p>[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 3243772, member: 96900"]I want to encourage collectors to learn how to detect fakes by themself because humans make mistakes and dealers and and experts of auction houses are humans too. Yes some dealers have managed to offer no fakes or at least no fakes I am aware of and some auction houses even manage to have complete auction catalogues without fakes so it is not impossible.</p><p>Others have a significant higher nuber of fakes in catalogue or to offer.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have written often enough how to detect fakes so I will not do again but the knowledge is in internet available. </p><p>4 Eyes see more than 2 and the more eyes the better, the more people who are cleaning them market from fakes and support dealers and auction houses the better. </p><p>The coins suspected as fakes should be of course really fakes because if not it would hurt the reputation of a reputable auction house or dealer and that would not be ok.</p><p>And most dealers and experts from auction houses are really kind persons and they maybe only had a bad day and not enough sleep before deadline or the coin had a good pedigree or came form a very good collection and they are then really happy if they will be notified.</p><p>A dealer and an owner of a very small auciton house even offered me a reward or better a discount for my next purchase, I of course rejected to this was really a nice offer and I do not have the intention to hurt such good and kind people!!!</p><p>It is much more effective if collectors and Dealers and Experts of auction houses know how to avoid fakes, this would reduce the number of fakes in the market and would be good for our hobby.</p><p>Some problems of fakes can not be avoided and other problems which can be avoided will casue other problems.</p><p>And yes not all do have enough time to learn this and then it is of course right to rely on the skills of reputable auction houses and dealers or authentication services.</p><p>Almost all fakes at the market can be detected with some knowledge easily, yes the really expensive fakes can be really hard and to be honest many of them would fool me too but there are luckily enough Experts who are able to detect them so that they will not be offered or withdrawn. Of course many are much better in detecting fakes than me but you will not find them in internet and if you still find them they will not tell you how to get beyond my level. I never pretended to be the best or one of the best but when I see so ("many") fake in the market offered on ebay or by dealers or auction houses it is frustrating and hurts because most of them are very obvious fakes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Everyone can achieve my level or even better if he invests enough time in studying fake and authentic coins.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 3243772, member: 96900"]I want to encourage collectors to learn how to detect fakes by themself because humans make mistakes and dealers and and experts of auction houses are humans too. Yes some dealers have managed to offer no fakes or at least no fakes I am aware of and some auction houses even manage to have complete auction catalogues without fakes so it is not impossible. Others have a significant higher nuber of fakes in catalogue or to offer. I have written often enough how to detect fakes so I will not do again but the knowledge is in internet available. 4 Eyes see more than 2 and the more eyes the better, the more people who are cleaning them market from fakes and support dealers and auction houses the better. The coins suspected as fakes should be of course really fakes because if not it would hurt the reputation of a reputable auction house or dealer and that would not be ok. And most dealers and experts from auction houses are really kind persons and they maybe only had a bad day and not enough sleep before deadline or the coin had a good pedigree or came form a very good collection and they are then really happy if they will be notified. A dealer and an owner of a very small auciton house even offered me a reward or better a discount for my next purchase, I of course rejected to this was really a nice offer and I do not have the intention to hurt such good and kind people!!! It is much more effective if collectors and Dealers and Experts of auction houses know how to avoid fakes, this would reduce the number of fakes in the market and would be good for our hobby. Some problems of fakes can not be avoided and other problems which can be avoided will casue other problems. And yes not all do have enough time to learn this and then it is of course right to rely on the skills of reputable auction houses and dealers or authentication services. Almost all fakes at the market can be detected with some knowledge easily, yes the really expensive fakes can be really hard and to be honest many of them would fool me too but there are luckily enough Experts who are able to detect them so that they will not be offered or withdrawn. Of course many are much better in detecting fakes than me but you will not find them in internet and if you still find them they will not tell you how to get beyond my level. I never pretended to be the best or one of the best but when I see so ("many") fake in the market offered on ebay or by dealers or auction houses it is frustrating and hurts because most of them are very obvious fakes. Everyone can achieve my level or even better if he invests enough time in studying fake and authentic coins.[/QUOTE]
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