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<p>[QUOTE="RomanGreekCoin3, post: 3135909, member: 96564"]Red_spork is 100% right. I know that NGC will send your coin back if it is discovered to not be authentic, but we have no idea how rigorous they test them. Red_spork just proved NGC made a mistake.</p><p><br /></p><p>arashpour,I just quoted you a paragraph from NGC themselves stating that they DO NOT guarantee authenticity... only grading.</p><p><br /></p><p>and NGC slabbed are way more expensive.. as i already stated. For what? For a piece of plastic shell with a hologram?</p><p><br /></p><p>Trust me, its just not worth it..</p><p>and as i said- with a little common sense, Ebay is fine, A lot of people on here sell on ebay( i dont- i buy only- for now)</p><p><br /></p><p>NGC does have great experts working with them- this is true... but even the best coin experts have been fooled by modern fakes.</p><p><br /></p><p>No fake is 100% perfect. but no coin expert is either.</p><p><br /></p><p>and Vcoins is overpriced. I have seen garbage on there that nobody wants for hundreds. Not sure how much I would trust those sellers.</p><p><br /></p><p>You do what you want- Feel free to ignore our good advice and blow your money on NGC slabbed coins, but dont say you werent warned.</p><p><br /></p><p>By using common sense and actually have the coin in your hand( to measure weight and diameter, not to mention metallurgy testing kits , you can do just fine without every buyin an NGC slab.</p><p><br /></p><p>NGC never uses testing kits. because the kits can slightly alter/ damage the coin sheen( such as a silver testing kit)</p><p><br /></p><p>In fact i am thinking of removing the ones out of the case that I have now. Its just not worth it( unless I am going to sell to suckers who think NGC coins are always 100% authentic )</p><p><br /></p><p>And I have no need to sell any of my coins- yet.</p><p><br /></p><p>I just prefer to buy from trusted sellers with good reputations. But even they can make a mistake( this happened to me just 2 months ago- He is an expert and even he made a mistake- he refunded my $ and all is good)</p><p><br /></p><p>And you are ignoring the fact that they have already developed ways to fake NGC slabs ( the shell/hologram). Look them up online.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://gradingholderpage.coinauctionshelp.com/PCGSFAKEANDREAL3.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>and they are only getting better and better. I came across a fake case before... never bought it -thank God, but so you see now? You cant trust anyone. But do whatever you want, Its your money. Red_spork and I are just are informing the board as well so the rest of the good people on here dont make the same mistake in trusting NGC as much as you do.</p><p><br /></p><p>There isn't a test that's been created that a smart man can't find his way around!</p><p><br /></p><p>Have a good day.</p><p>April[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="RomanGreekCoin3, post: 3135909, member: 96564"]Red_spork is 100% right. I know that NGC will send your coin back if it is discovered to not be authentic, but we have no idea how rigorous they test them. Red_spork just proved NGC made a mistake. arashpour,I just quoted you a paragraph from NGC themselves stating that they DO NOT guarantee authenticity... only grading. and NGC slabbed are way more expensive.. as i already stated. For what? For a piece of plastic shell with a hologram? Trust me, its just not worth it.. and as i said- with a little common sense, Ebay is fine, A lot of people on here sell on ebay( i dont- i buy only- for now) NGC does have great experts working with them- this is true... but even the best coin experts have been fooled by modern fakes. No fake is 100% perfect. but no coin expert is either. and Vcoins is overpriced. I have seen garbage on there that nobody wants for hundreds. Not sure how much I would trust those sellers. You do what you want- Feel free to ignore our good advice and blow your money on NGC slabbed coins, but dont say you werent warned. By using common sense and actually have the coin in your hand( to measure weight and diameter, not to mention metallurgy testing kits , you can do just fine without every buyin an NGC slab. NGC never uses testing kits. because the kits can slightly alter/ damage the coin sheen( such as a silver testing kit) In fact i am thinking of removing the ones out of the case that I have now. Its just not worth it( unless I am going to sell to suckers who think NGC coins are always 100% authentic ) And I have no need to sell any of my coins- yet. I just prefer to buy from trusted sellers with good reputations. But even they can make a mistake( this happened to me just 2 months ago- He is an expert and even he made a mistake- he refunded my $ and all is good) And you are ignoring the fact that they have already developed ways to fake NGC slabs ( the shell/hologram). Look them up online. [IMG]http://gradingholderpage.coinauctionshelp.com/PCGSFAKEANDREAL3.jpg[/IMG] and they are only getting better and better. I came across a fake case before... never bought it -thank God, but so you see now? You cant trust anyone. But do whatever you want, Its your money. Red_spork and I are just are informing the board as well so the rest of the good people on here dont make the same mistake in trusting NGC as much as you do. There isn't a test that's been created that a smart man can't find his way around! Have a good day. April[/QUOTE]
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