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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Lolli, post: 4516005, member: 96900&quot;]I am curious to hear why modern hand cut die fakes have ghost line (showing exactly the flanshape and imperfections of mother), cut letters where flan of mother ended and soft details and incomplete dotted border.</p><p>And why there is not any of these coins without this problems.</p><p>I have see many many hundreds of modern hand cut dies but not any with these problems. And I have seen hundreds of transfer dies and many had exactly these problems.</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="4"><b><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/victor_clark.10613/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/victor_clark.10613/">Victor_Clark</a></b></font></p><p>&quot;there are not any.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>How can you know?</p><p><br /></p><p>You know all coins from this emission ever minted or at least all in museum collections from excavations and published in literature etc. These coins are nothing really special so they are generally not digitalized and published so many many are laying in museum collections and no one cares and is publishing them.</p><p><br /></p><p>Condemnation based on style alone is <a href="https://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/error-prone.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/error-prone.html" rel="nofollow">error-prone</a> and not really reliable.</p><p>Fakes from modern hand cut dies can have perfect style and couldn´t been detected based on style and authentic coins can have sometimes have strange style and could be condemned based on their different style only (this has happend often enough in the past, that authentic coins were condemned and later rehbilitated).</p><p><br /></p><p>Otherwise a real prove that the style is not possible would be interesting.</p><p><br /></p><p>The question is not if fakes from these dies exist, they do but they are transfer die fakes, the real question is if only fakes exist from these die or if authentic coins do exist from these dies, too.</p><p><br /></p><p>And the problem ist that, some are memorizing fake reports and thinking that all coins from these dies must be fake without understanding waht actually is wrong with them.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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