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<p>[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 7585038, member: 75937"]Very early in my coin collecting "career" when eBay was a new thing and the Celator was still in print, I bought this one from an eBay dealer as a "Caligula and Caesonia":</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/caligula-and-caesonia-fake-jpg.847662/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>After all, it looked very similar to one posted at an academic website, the <a href="http://artemis.austincollege.edu/acad/cml/rcape/vcrc/catalog-sidebar.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://artemis.austincollege.edu/acad/cml/rcape/vcrc/catalog-sidebar.html" rel="nofollow">Virtual Catalog of Roman Coins</a>, maintained by Austin College:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/capture-jpg.847663/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>The coin had a "soft" appearance and feel to it and there were traces of a casting seam around the edge -- though I believe most of the flan was filed down -- and the whole coin had an artificial patina applied to age the coin and cover the file work on the edge.</p><p><br /></p><p>I compared the coin to that one posted on the Virtual Catalog of Roman Coins' page and it was identical in flan shape and die and placement of the dies on the flan -- it was a cast copy -- the only differences being the artificial patinas that were applied to each. Both coins are forged.</p><p><br /></p><p>I confronted the dealer with this evidence and demanded (and got) a refund without returning the coin only to be sold to another sucker.</p><p><br /></p><p>I eventually bought another example -- a genuine one -- and also learned that the <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/caesonia-as-salus.318094/#post-3105729" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/caesonia-as-salus.318094/#post-3105729">coin does not actually portray Caesonia</a> at all, but a personification of Salus. Here's the real deal:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/caligula-and-caesonia-jpg.1128355/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Caligula AD 37-41.</p><p>Roman provincial Æ 28 mm, 11.17 gm.</p><p>Carthago Nova, Spain, AD 37-38.</p><p>Obv: C. CAESAR AVG. GERMANIC. IMP. P.M. TR.P. COS., laureate head of Caligula, r.</p><p>Rev: CN. ATEL. FLAC. CN. POM. FLAC. II. VIR. Q.V.I.N.C., head of Salus r., SAL AVG across field.</p><p>Refs: SGI 419; Heiss 272, 35; Cohen 247, 1; RPC 1, 185; SNG Cop 503.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 7585038, member: 75937"]Very early in my coin collecting "career" when eBay was a new thing and the Celator was still in print, I bought this one from an eBay dealer as a "Caligula and Caesonia": [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/caligula-and-caesonia-fake-jpg.847662/[/IMG] After all, it looked very similar to one posted at an academic website, the [URL='http://artemis.austincollege.edu/acad/cml/rcape/vcrc/catalog-sidebar.html']Virtual Catalog of Roman Coins[/URL], maintained by Austin College: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/capture-jpg.847663/[/IMG] The coin had a "soft" appearance and feel to it and there were traces of a casting seam around the edge -- though I believe most of the flan was filed down -- and the whole coin had an artificial patina applied to age the coin and cover the file work on the edge. I compared the coin to that one posted on the Virtual Catalog of Roman Coins' page and it was identical in flan shape and die and placement of the dies on the flan -- it was a cast copy -- the only differences being the artificial patinas that were applied to each. Both coins are forged. I confronted the dealer with this evidence and demanded (and got) a refund without returning the coin only to be sold to another sucker. I eventually bought another example -- a genuine one -- and also learned that the [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/caesonia-as-salus.318094/#post-3105729']coin does not actually portray Caesonia[/URL] at all, but a personification of Salus. Here's the real deal: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/caligula-and-caesonia-jpg.1128355/[/IMG] Caligula AD 37-41. Roman provincial Æ 28 mm, 11.17 gm. Carthago Nova, Spain, AD 37-38. Obv: C. CAESAR AVG. GERMANIC. IMP. P.M. TR.P. COS., laureate head of Caligula, r. Rev: CN. ATEL. FLAC. CN. POM. FLAC. II. VIR. Q.V.I.N.C., head of Salus r., SAL AVG across field. Refs: SGI 419; Heiss 272, 35; Cohen 247, 1; RPC 1, 185; SNG Cop 503.[/QUOTE]
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