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<p>[QUOTE="Mote Dai, post: 60425, member: 3559"]<b>ebay's coin problems</b></p><p><br /></p><p>I recently started buying and selling coins on ebay and was shocked at both the numbers of obvious counterfeits (early silver and trade dollars--heck, I even saw an "authentic" 1859 Trade Dollar!! Just had to laugh) and the bids that some receive. As many new collectors, I am returning to a childhood hobby. I made a conscious decision to get educated to protect myself, so I purchased a couple books (spiral bound Red Book has been the most helpful so far--not for the prices, but the coin descriptions--Gray Sheets help for values). I think a small amount of education goes a LONG way in combatting ebay frauds. I have started reporting fakes as well, but I have to admit, they are getting pretty darn good. I have also noticed that they have increasingly been posting copycat listings (stolen images from other sellers) so the high bidder probably won't even receive the fake coin! I also report these image thefts if I can locate the original posting in the completed auctions--which isn't all that hard.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think the bigger problem at Ebay is the gross over grading by what seem to be questionable--even fictional-- third party graders. People see a slab and think it must be real. I just did a search for "SGS GRADED" coins--there were over 1101 hits. Trust me, there are many chinese fraudsters, but this seller puts them to shame. I haven't seen many (any?) PCGS or NGC MS70 Franklin Halves, but this lucky fellow has tons of them (see item #8315370923 for an example). I am sure that many here have already discussed this seller--I cannot imagine that it has slipped by the eagle eyed individuals here![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Mote Dai, post: 60425, member: 3559"][b]ebay's coin problems[/b] I recently started buying and selling coins on ebay and was shocked at both the numbers of obvious counterfeits (early silver and trade dollars--heck, I even saw an "authentic" 1859 Trade Dollar!! Just had to laugh) and the bids that some receive. As many new collectors, I am returning to a childhood hobby. I made a conscious decision to get educated to protect myself, so I purchased a couple books (spiral bound Red Book has been the most helpful so far--not for the prices, but the coin descriptions--Gray Sheets help for values). I think a small amount of education goes a LONG way in combatting ebay frauds. I have started reporting fakes as well, but I have to admit, they are getting pretty darn good. I have also noticed that they have increasingly been posting copycat listings (stolen images from other sellers) so the high bidder probably won't even receive the fake coin! I also report these image thefts if I can locate the original posting in the completed auctions--which isn't all that hard. I think the bigger problem at Ebay is the gross over grading by what seem to be questionable--even fictional-- third party graders. People see a slab and think it must be real. I just did a search for "SGS GRADED" coins--there were over 1101 hits. Trust me, there are many chinese fraudsters, but this seller puts them to shame. I haven't seen many (any?) PCGS or NGC MS70 Franklin Halves, but this lucky fellow has tons of them (see item #8315370923 for an example). I am sure that many here have already discussed this seller--I cannot imagine that it has slipped by the eagle eyed individuals here![/QUOTE]
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