Fake coins at Walt Disny World

I think we were seperated at birth....LOL
I went to Epcot 2 nights in a row.
I was majorly digging the norweigian beer.
Of course, I did have to sample all that was available.
Just in case I needed to write a column on it, or something.

 

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excellent!

 

I don't really keep up with which Corporations (Disney or Warner Bros.) produced certain Cartoon characters! How does "Too many Donald Ducks selling Mickey Mouse stuff to Goofy people" sound? Besides, I use the term Mickey Mouse for a lot of things, companies and services that I find questionable!


Frank

 

Are you saying that most coin dealers are running a Mickey Mouse operation.

 

Ok, I live in the Orlando area. I had occasion to go down to Epcot today and while there, I looked up the coins in question at the side shop in the China place. The package of coins in question are 8 coins which do look silver and are about the right size to be about a dollar. No where on the package is there any indication that they are copies or reproductions. The look like they are 7 mace and 2 candareen silver dollars. But they are too light and they have no silver ring when struck. The coins weigh on average about 20 grams instead of the 26 that they ought. I'll make some scans of them and post them later. Since they only cost 8 dollars, I figured what the heck - I'd bite just out of curiosity. The packaging does have on it "Ming Dynasty Coins". I'll scan the packaging as well. But not tonight cuz I am tired. The real reason for going down there was the International Food and Wine Festival and I had a lot of stops to make around Epcot -- Tony

 

Ok, here are the scans of the coins that I bought at the China Pavilion yesterday. Ignore the vertical bar density change in the scans, they are the artifact of an inadequate scanner.

Package scan



Other side of package


First pair obverse

reverse


Second pair obverse
reverse


Third pair obverse
reverse



Fourth pair obverse
reverse

 

Can anyone post a picture / photograph of the Disney store selling the items?

Given how much Disney lawyers go after people selling counterfeit and unauthorized Disney items,
it is a surprise that Disney is selling counterfeits.

 

Here is a link to someone's flickr page which has a decent image of where the little shop is. In the image, there is a girl standing in the walkway. To her right, there is now a small outside cart/kiosk that sells the coins. It wasn't there when this person's picture was taken because given where she is, she would be right in front of it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fb/1509400346/ - Tony

 

tcekolin
so, at least now we know where those eBay coins come from.

 

Hey Joe,

Yep, Mrickey Mrouse get coins from same hrigh krality Coin Dealer in Shanghai, from me, Shanghai Cha'lie!


Shanghai Cha'lie

 

I wouldn't doubt that some of them show up on eBay from having been purchased at Disney. When I was there a lady was buying a pack for her nephew because he is a coin collector. I hope that he figures out that they aren't real. And if he does, how long till he tries to eBay them? Oh well. I think they are neat for what they are. The copier even went to the trouble to include some die cracks in a couple of them Now, if they are selling at the China Pavilion for $8.00 a pack, or $1.00 a piece, I wonder what they cost the Pavilion? Things are marked up pretty nicely at Disney.

On a different note, in the Space Mountain Gift shop, there is a game that has old Franklins, Walking Liberties and the like in it as prizes. It is one of those where there are blinking lights going round the gift carousel and you gotta hit the button when the light is in front of the prize you want. Those coins look real through the glass, but since I never win at those kinds of games, I can't say from first hand. They look pretty cool though. They are mounted in 2x2s. There are other kinds of prizes as well, but it was the coins that caught my eye and so I can't really say what else was in the game. -- Tony

 

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Okay, I seriouly LOLed at this...

...and this...

...and this.

It's sure not a great deal at melt value if these repos/fakes/CF's don't have the same comp as originals. Although sometimes repos/fakes/CF's can gain collectible value, though I doubt it with the volume they're probably foisting off.

I wonder if it says something like reproduction in the Chinese characters. I'm joking, but if they are imported from China, it really seriously could. That would be so funny and sad at the same time [comedy and tragedy faces (author giggles)] But I doubt Chinese law bothers to regulate this kind of thing on imitation coins.

I am learning some Chinese characters from this way cool totally awesome website called MDBG. (not learning any talking though other than: 谢谢/xiè xie/謝謝/jeh jeh - 'thank you' [first example's pronunciation is Mandarin, second Cantonese; same characters in both, but two different government standards[communist government reduced the number of strokes in thousands of characters] and
您好/nín hǎo/néih hóu - 'hello.' [characters same in both standards)

I can't find what MDGB stands for anywhere on their site, and it doesn't say in the wikipedia article. (Yes, it has it's own entry:goofer The article does say it is the leading website for Chinese character reference! ...and to think I found it in a google search...[misty eyes])

Because I can't find out what it really means, I have backronymed 'MDBG' to Mother Dictionary Big Good, which seems appropriate (no offense intended, I laugh at myself on the inside(LMSI) knowing the Chinese I write definitely look as bad as the badlytranslated English you see on product packages from the Chinas)

I will try to get the Chinese translated. (unless someone on here can read Chinese without looking it up and save me some time)

But is it really from Norway? [chuckles while Twilight Zone theme song plays]
:rolling:


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I looked at an old coin catalog (Yeoman) and the coins in the illustrations here appear to be copies of real early 20th century Chinese coins with the original Chinese characters.

I could not find the coin with the man (Sun Yat Sen?) facing, that one might be a fantasy piece.

Why doesn't Disney hire a Chinese mint to strike coins with Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Walt, on them and sell them at Disney parks.

 

Huh

Why a Chinese mint?

 

I love the one on the left side of the second pair. The obverse is similar to a genuine Chinese coin, except for the legend, and the reverse is a fairly good copy of a Japanese yen, complete with the Imperial Chrysanthemum at the top!

 

Well Disney does print it's own paper money. Disney dollars have been around for 20 years this month and they are actually collectible for some people. ( http://www.disneydollars.net/What are Disney Dollars.htm )

Disney also has its own medals that they make. They are usually brass, or copper, but they do make gold and silver ones, that have various themes like the park logo's, celebrations, important dates, that sort of thing. My brother has a set of about 100 different ones, but they have little value over cost.

David