Fake Capped Bust Half Dollar?

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  1. larssten

    larssten Well-Known Member

    The owner of this capped bust half dollar is not sure if this coin is authentic or not. Does anyone have an opinion based on the photos alone?
     

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  3. Taxidermist

    Taxidermist Collector of US/IL/RU/DE

    Looks authentic.
     
  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Looks real to me.
     
  5. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

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  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    The way things are today, I can't keep up with what is fake or real. You can research the coin and still be wrong. The bad guys just keep getting better.
     
  8. old49er

    old49er Well-Known Member

    Sure looks real to me. But I'm no pro. The only concerns I see are the raised dot under her chin, and the E in United. Is there a variety with these markers?
     
  9. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    The variety is O-113.
     
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  10. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Looks genuine to me.
     
  11. larssten

    larssten Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the input! The coin has now been analyzed by a qualified dealer (weight, edge writing and metal composition analysis) who suggest it being authentic. Think the grade is AU-ish. Its has most likely been cleaned at some point though - how much would that affect the value/attractiveness for you?
     
  12. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I arrived at the same place (when I open a Bust Half thread, I attribute it before reading any responses). The dot at the throat, among other details, would be difficult to get right in a transfer die/cast counterfeit and even harder for "original" counterfeit dies. Technical merit, to me, is on the good side of XF and the images aren't representative enough of actual appearance to form a good opinion of eye appeal. It has a lack of visible marks going for it, but looks like the black spots used to cover more of the surfaces.
     
  13. McBlzr

    McBlzr Sr Professional Collector

    I agree with 1832 CBH Overton -113.
    Die Dot at Throat
    Prong on Wing tip
    VF-XF
    Probably a very old cleaning, but nice circulated gray coloring.

    Looks authentic-genuine to me.

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  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    But not hard at all for a hub cut by computer scanning of a genuine coin.
     
  15. larssten

    larssten Well-Known Member

    Thank you all for your inputs!

    I now also have photos of the edge - and it says " FIFTY CENTS O(RA)LF A DOLLAR" where letters "RA" is stamped on top of each other.

    Is this a common mistake or anything to worry about authenticity vice?
     

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  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    common misalignment from the Castaing [misspelled] machine
     
  17. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Looks real to me. Old cleaning, but not too bad.
     
  18. ROBERT BAZAN

    ROBERT BAZAN New Member

    I have a nice looking 1830 Half Dollar, but it has FIFTY CKNTS OR HALF A DOLLAR written on its edge. CENTS is spelled CKNTS. Fake??
     
  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Can you show pictures? Most likely it is just damage to the edge.
     
  20. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    First, welcome to the neighborhood, Robert!

    It would be best if you started your own thread with good, clear photos of both sides and the edge.
     
  21. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    It looks to be genuine, but cleaned.

    You can't know for sure because the color is a bit "funky." Someone needs to look at in person.
     
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