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<p>[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 679228, member: 6370"]I see very good reasons for this rule:</p><p> </p><p>A person who wants a coin can contact other bidders and scare them off then win that coin.</p><p> </p><p>A person with a grudge against a seller can run off his business by proclaiming all his coins fake to his buyers.</p><p> </p><p>A person who THINKS he knows a coin is fake can then proclaim the coin is fake whether it is or not. Who are you? What do you know? They dont know you from Adam and they dont know if your judgment is sound or if you know fake from real. A lot of people think they know and they just dont...</p><p> </p><p>Bidders can collude to keep prices down...I'll let you get this one cheap and not bid, the next one I get for cheap and you dont bid.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>The list goes on. There have been many times where I would have liked to warn bidders about what I believed to be a fake but I understand why, in this venue, its probably best to not let people interfere with a sale.</p><p> </p><p>I have reported sellers in the past to ebay and provided proof the coin a person is selling is fake and they have been removed...best to go about it that way and not allow every unknown ebayer with unknown knowledge level and unknown motives contact buyers willy nilly condemning peoples wares.</p><p> </p><p>I dont know how many times I have heard someone say. 'thats a fake, there is no doubt!!' then when asked why they say it is fake you get some vague reasoning like 'it just obviously fake' or 'it doesnt look right' or 'the sellers posting is fishy'.</p><p> </p><p>There was a Greek coin posted here a bit ago that people had a hard time with so the person went to forum to post it and see what people there thought. Most there seemed to think it was fake but few would condemn the coin because they werent sure. One guy out right says there is no doubt it is fake, one reasoning was because of scratches on the coin that he said were new...there were a few other similar reasons. </p><p> </p><p>I asked the guy how, from a photo, he could tell the scratches were new...just as a learning experience, just to see if this guy could adequately explain how he knew, with 100% surety, the coin was fake...no answer...so often people are so quick to proclaim a coin fake, they will shout it from the roof top, but when asked to explain how he knows, the answers aren't there or are vague....so they are more than able to proclaim a coin fake without any reservation...but oddly shy away when asked WHY they think its fake or to explain how they know scratches on a coin are new or old or how that factors into it being fake or real...</p><p> </p><p>Unlike some, I have very little faith in peoples ability to spot fakes and I have even less faith that people who proclaim they can tell a coin has been cleaned can...because 9 or of 10 times, they cant.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 679228, member: 6370"]I see very good reasons for this rule: A person who wants a coin can contact other bidders and scare them off then win that coin. A person with a grudge against a seller can run off his business by proclaiming all his coins fake to his buyers. A person who THINKS he knows a coin is fake can then proclaim the coin is fake whether it is or not. Who are you? What do you know? They dont know you from Adam and they dont know if your judgment is sound or if you know fake from real. A lot of people think they know and they just dont... Bidders can collude to keep prices down...I'll let you get this one cheap and not bid, the next one I get for cheap and you dont bid. The list goes on. There have been many times where I would have liked to warn bidders about what I believed to be a fake but I understand why, in this venue, its probably best to not let people interfere with a sale. I have reported sellers in the past to ebay and provided proof the coin a person is selling is fake and they have been removed...best to go about it that way and not allow every unknown ebayer with unknown knowledge level and unknown motives contact buyers willy nilly condemning peoples wares. I dont know how many times I have heard someone say. 'thats a fake, there is no doubt!!' then when asked why they say it is fake you get some vague reasoning like 'it just obviously fake' or 'it doesnt look right' or 'the sellers posting is fishy'. There was a Greek coin posted here a bit ago that people had a hard time with so the person went to forum to post it and see what people there thought. Most there seemed to think it was fake but few would condemn the coin because they werent sure. One guy out right says there is no doubt it is fake, one reasoning was because of scratches on the coin that he said were new...there were a few other similar reasons. I asked the guy how, from a photo, he could tell the scratches were new...just as a learning experience, just to see if this guy could adequately explain how he knew, with 100% surety, the coin was fake...no answer...so often people are so quick to proclaim a coin fake, they will shout it from the roof top, but when asked to explain how he knows, the answers aren't there or are vague....so they are more than able to proclaim a coin fake without any reservation...but oddly shy away when asked WHY they think its fake or to explain how they know scratches on a coin are new or old or how that factors into it being fake or real... Unlike some, I have very little faith in peoples ability to spot fakes and I have even less faith that people who proclaim they can tell a coin has been cleaned can...because 9 or of 10 times, they cant.[/QUOTE]
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