Fake Akragas returns!

This Akragas hemilitron purchased by Theodosius



was discussed in this thread
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/new-akragas-hemilitron.278898/
and it was agreed that it is a fake. Fortunately, John returned the coin and obtained a refund. Now it has already returned to the market! Here is lot 1507 to be offered in Goldberg 93 on September 6:


The lighting is different, but it is the same coin. I am contacting Goldberg to inform them. The battle against forgeries never ends!

 

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I see difference..in quality..but the fake would fool me...

 

It's enough to make one want to collect something else altogether... or not at all. I wonder who over at Goldberg is asleep at the wheel (of course, it is a very well done fake, but still....). Thanks for posting this update.

 

I am tempted to buy the coin, so I can destroy it and guarantee that it will never raise its ugly (eagle) head again!

 

It's extremely difficult for me to tell that it's a fake from the photos....

I'd be interested in what Goldberg et. al have to say.

 

Mikey Zee, there was an earlier thread that showed several different examples of this coin that all had the same defects (albeit on different flans). So, by itself, you're right, it can fool just about anyone. I like Ancientnut's idea of buying it to get it off the market. But if I were to do that, I think I'd stamp the edge "Fake" then put it in a nice piece of jewelry or on a belt buckle or tie clip. (it's an attractive fake!)

 

I'm reviving this thread because I believe another of these fake Akragas AE's is possibly being offered by Kunker on September 26. I've been comparing it:
https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=2927&category=59815&lot=2443625
to these examples at Odysseus' site:
https://numismaticfakes.wordpress.com/tag/akragas/

Let's hear your opinions.

 

Yes!!!

 

Deacon Ray, my comment that you quoted was in reference to the OP fake. This is a different coin being offered. I am not certain about the Kunker offering and would appreciate opinions.

 

I can understand your uncertainty. It seems to replicate so many precise details of the fakes you already posted. But I'm as unsure as you are---although I'm leaning towards a replica.

 

My apologies, ancientnut for any misunderstanding! I vote yes, however, to forgeries being removed from circulation. If I were an expert, I would make it my priority.

 

It has the same corrosion pit on the reverse on the body of the triton. The right claw does not have the big corrosion blob on it.

Hmmmm. Could this be the model for the transfer die? Or maybe a bad mold of this coin was used later to make the transfer die?

This fake still hurts because I loved the type.

 

The eagles eye is rendered much better on the new one. The "pigeon eye" on mine Iis just totally wrong style.

 

Here is another fake Akragas but it is not AE but a AR that was recently sold for $967. This coin is obvious and a dead give away for being fake.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/182283012116

 

WOW!! Someone paid that much and there were two bidders. I wonder if either of them attempted to verify authenticity or did they simply accept the seller's explanation. If any coin looks tooo good and 'looks off' as well, that one does.

 

The underbidder may have been a shill since the feedback is private. But, it is a fairly good copy. Whoever made it was a decent artist. While it would not pass our muster I can see how it would easily fool a lot of people.

 

Kunker replies:
"Thank you for your inquiry but we confirm the originality of lot 78 at our auction 280. It has nothing to do with the one under the link you have given."
I maintain that there are too many matches to forgeries recently offered to take a chance bidding on this coin.

 

Only 3 real ones known....is this one of them? I doubt it. Last real one sold for $6600.

 

Just my opinion as a collector of fake coins: This link shows a counterfeit suitable ONLY for jewelry. The fake in the OP SHOULD NOT be destroyed or marked in any way. It should be published as you have done and put into a counterfeit collection at an institution as as reference to the quality of fakes being made during this period of time. I have seen several 100% genuine coins in my field of interest that have been defaced by "ex-perts" who regarded them as fakes.

 

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