Fake 2011 Canadian Silver Maple Leafs

Here is a follow up to my fake ingot video:

Direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvgCAj_ywjw

In this video, I am showing some of the high quality fake 2011 Canadian Maple Leaf coins that are flooding the market place.

 

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Do you know what the outer metal is?

 

I was ready to mix myself a drink. The filing process was a bit lengthy.
But, I don't think it's a surprise where these fakes are coming from.

 

Yeah... the OP might want to motorize that portion. Slap that baby against a grinding wheel for a second or two.

 

I really worry that the sophistication of today's counterfeiters is going to destroy the hobby of numismatics.

 

Even his cat was wondering what all the racket was!

 

You and me both! I recently bought a known counterfeit (reluctantly), just to see if my local coin dealer of over thirty years could find the flaws (because I could not). It alarmed me at the amount of time, and amount of tests it took to determine it authenticity. Scary times in the numismatic world.

 

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You don't... Registering a domain and buying server space all cost $$$$$

 

Yes domain registration and bandwith doesn't come cheap. Especially if you plan to keep it ad free.

Anyway oz what's the weight and dimensions on the maple leaf?

 

You know, Americans have more money than China, so how bout this. The government in China is all about undermining confidence in our money, and they delight when we get taken by one of their local counterfeiters. So why don't a group of coin hobbyists get together here and start minting CHINESE FAKES by the gazillion, and flood their country with them. Sell them on EBAY for pennies on the Yuan. Ain't capitalism Grand, yee commies pigs.

 

I am working a case that involves counterfeit 2011 reverse proof silver maples. They weight between 31.4g all the way to 32.1g. I have found 96 that have been sold to unsuspecting coin dealers. All of the coins were presented in acrylic cases and look very to be authentic at first glance. The one identifying item I have seen on all the coins I have is a die crack located on the middle leaf on the third point to the right. I will attach a picture to show the die crack. If you see this die crack, it is a fake. Several of these coins have been cut open to reveal a brass colored core. Hope this help.

 

i thought that the only maple leafs released that were reverse proof were ones with privy marks?

so isn't the absence of a privy mark on a reverse proof maple leaf enough to indicate that it is counterfeit?

 

Very interesting info can you tell us how thick the silver plating was and was there any metallurgy done on the core.

Not that familiar with leafs but weren't there only around 5k released with privy marks'?

 

Well G man. If all you see is some die crack that shows a difference you need to look way harder.

The maple leaf is COMPLETELY wrong. The most obvious in my eyes is that at the bottom center of the leaf the fakes have no veins. Its blatantly obvious. And a design flaw that can be seen from 10 feet away.

 

Good point snaps. But for a person not familiar with the veins on the leaf (like me), the die crack is an easy to remember indicator.

http://www.goldwhy.com/silver-maple-leaf-coin-pictures.html

Not sure if all years have the same veins?

 

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May want to save this picture. From ozcopper.com:

 

Great pictures!

 

It is not completely wrong and quite surprising since this one of first major counterfeits' of maple leaf (first attempts at fake pandas' were pretty bad). Don't be surprised if they fix the veins issue in next batch of fakes'.