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<p>[QUOTE="teh_admiral, post: 3258699, member: 99788"][USER=66]@Conder101[/USER] Honestly, that statement confuses me: how can anyone be a coin collector without caring about the metal content? By that logic, well-produced fakes are ok? Because even a pro is gonna miss a well-produced fake now and again, otherwise other numismatists wouldn't have written the US Mint about the prevalence of fakes like in a link I linked. If you were to say, "It was difficult to control quality when Britain was minting sovereigns, and they are known to vary from 18k-22k", then I might take you seriously because there must be some historical references or tested coins that led to that conclusion. But the fact that thickly-plated fakes will pass most tests only reinforces the need to know with 100% certainty. Again, you wouldn't buy a car without starting the engine, would you? [USER=77976]@Nathan401[/USER] And that's what I'm attempting to ascertain: whether or not my sovereign is genuine even tho it's +18k and not 22k. Is that just normal variability with 100-year old casting methods? Or were they not even cast and instead stamped and cut like old cobs? (I honestly don't remember from my research...) Because my escudos are 22k; was Spain just "better" at minting coins? And again, the car analogy: any coin that's not uncirculated is "damaged" by definition. And by definition, the same thing APMEX says about returns, no one knows with absolute certainty that it didn't pass through the hands of an expert forger / pirate / Alibaba buyer-re-seller. It's just the unfortunate truth that people refuse to believe could possibly happen to them......[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="teh_admiral, post: 3258699, member: 99788"][USER=66]@Conder101[/USER] Honestly, that statement confuses me: how can anyone be a coin collector without caring about the metal content? By that logic, well-produced fakes are ok? Because even a pro is gonna miss a well-produced fake now and again, otherwise other numismatists wouldn't have written the US Mint about the prevalence of fakes like in a link I linked. If you were to say, "It was difficult to control quality when Britain was minting sovereigns, and they are known to vary from 18k-22k", then I might take you seriously because there must be some historical references or tested coins that led to that conclusion. But the fact that thickly-plated fakes will pass most tests only reinforces the need to know with 100% certainty. Again, you wouldn't buy a car without starting the engine, would you? [USER=77976]@Nathan401[/USER] And that's what I'm attempting to ascertain: whether or not my sovereign is genuine even tho it's +18k and not 22k. Is that just normal variability with 100-year old casting methods? Or were they not even cast and instead stamped and cut like old cobs? (I honestly don't remember from my research...) Because my escudos are 22k; was Spain just "better" at minting coins? And again, the car analogy: any coin that's not uncirculated is "damaged" by definition. And by definition, the same thing APMEX says about returns, no one knows with absolute certainty that it didn't pass through the hands of an expert forger / pirate / Alibaba buyer-re-seller. It's just the unfortunate truth that people refuse to believe could possibly happen to them......[/QUOTE]
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