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<p>[QUOTE="teh_admiral, post: 3256779, member: 99788"][USER=92083]@JCro57[/USER] If you don't scratch test your coins, then you'll never know for certain unless you got it straight from the mint. And even the mints "aren't doing enough" : <a href="https://www.numismaticnews.net/buzz/mint-absent-fight-fakes" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.numismaticnews.net/buzz/mint-absent-fight-fakes" rel="nofollow">https://www.numismaticnews.net/buzz/mint-absent-fight-fakes</a> from 2017 too, so not outdated... Again: pirate. Privateer. Whatever. Just because no one wants a fake doesn't mean fakes aren't abundant. And what am I supposed to do with a less than 22k sovereign? Return it as a fake? Melt it for the gold? How would I have known without acid testing it? Until anyone can come up with a repeatable, scientific method for testing % gold, and unless y'all are buying flawless, uncirculated coins then y'all are crazy for thinking scratch testing reduces value. If anything scratch-testing is better than "certified" since you couldn't certify nor could I, but anyone with an acid kit can prove what real gold is... [USER=15199]@desertgem[/USER] found a link to plated fakes in how much time? Do you think a "lifetime of experience" will mean someone at APMEX going through how many coins won't make a mistake every now and again? APMEX got hit by fake PAMP bars, and XRF only goes as deep as the surface + a few microns : <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_there_an_easy_way_to_calculate_what_the_penetration_depth_is_for_X-ray_florescence_in_gold" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_there_an_easy_way_to_calculate_what_the_penetration_depth_is_for_X-ray_florescence_in_gold" rel="nofollow">https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_there_an_easy_way_to_calculate_what_the_penetration_depth_is_for_X-ray_florescence_in_gold</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="teh_admiral, post: 3256779, member: 99788"][USER=92083]@JCro57[/USER] If you don't scratch test your coins, then you'll never know for certain unless you got it straight from the mint. And even the mints "aren't doing enough" : [url]https://www.numismaticnews.net/buzz/mint-absent-fight-fakes[/url] from 2017 too, so not outdated... Again: pirate. Privateer. Whatever. Just because no one wants a fake doesn't mean fakes aren't abundant. And what am I supposed to do with a less than 22k sovereign? Return it as a fake? Melt it for the gold? How would I have known without acid testing it? Until anyone can come up with a repeatable, scientific method for testing % gold, and unless y'all are buying flawless, uncirculated coins then y'all are crazy for thinking scratch testing reduces value. If anything scratch-testing is better than "certified" since you couldn't certify nor could I, but anyone with an acid kit can prove what real gold is... [USER=15199]@desertgem[/USER] found a link to plated fakes in how much time? Do you think a "lifetime of experience" will mean someone at APMEX going through how many coins won't make a mistake every now and again? APMEX got hit by fake PAMP bars, and XRF only goes as deep as the surface + a few microns : [url]https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_there_an_easy_way_to_calculate_what_the_penetration_depth_is_for_X-ray_florescence_in_gold[/url][/QUOTE]
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