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<p>[QUOTE="teh_admiral, post: 3256585, member: 99788"]First of all, short of scratch testing on a block and then using acid on the block, how are we supposed to determine with 100% accuracy that it is the % gold we thought it was? Are you all against scratch testing because you don't want to find out you've bought 18k or 14k instead of 22k? Not only does scratch-testing do literally ALMOST zero damage it was tested by the jewelers to the MN Vikings. Dare I say they are professionals who do a good job without destroy the merch? It's not like the jeweler scratches the face of coins; they can test the edge without the edge showing anything, except that it is a random date circulated coin with plenty of edge wear upon arrival. I'll bet you my 8 escudo if you were to hand them a coin to have tested when you got it back you wouldn't be able to tell it was tested, and you would therefore owe me 8 escudo for losing the bet........ Also, the density test can be easily faked with heavy metals plated to appear 22k, and it was either here in cointalk or another forum that mentioned how there are 18k jeweler copies out there. I took it to American Rare Coin here in MN, and my guy says it LOOKS legit. But it's obviously more copper than my 8 escudo, and he says it could be due to the alloys in the sovereign. He also doesn't have an acid test kit so he could not be 100% sure.</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=15199]@desertgem[/USER] thank you for the link!! Honestly that product LOOKS like 22k gold from the picture. Moreso than my sovereign.</p><p><br /></p><p>And yes I will take a picture and upload it after having it re-tested by Continental Diamond. Yes, I had my 1500 Carlos y Juana escudo as well as all gold tested. That's why it's painfully obvious from looking that the sovereign is not 22k. BUT like [USER=26302]@medoraman[/USER] said the first test COULD have found a poor mix spot, so I will ask them kindly to re-test it. Also: APMEX has actually a lot of negative feedback on Ebay regarding poor quality coins, items not shipped, etc. I HOPE they aren't scamming the majority while the minority of us who research coins do due diligence and end up calling them out.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thank you ALL for responding!! I am still looking for answers along the lines of experience... i.e. "I've bought many sovereigns, and some just LOOK copper-ish..." or "Ratios were harder to control and not as precise back in the UK..." I'd love to learn from your experiences...[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="teh_admiral, post: 3256585, member: 99788"]First of all, short of scratch testing on a block and then using acid on the block, how are we supposed to determine with 100% accuracy that it is the % gold we thought it was? Are you all against scratch testing because you don't want to find out you've bought 18k or 14k instead of 22k? Not only does scratch-testing do literally ALMOST zero damage it was tested by the jewelers to the MN Vikings. Dare I say they are professionals who do a good job without destroy the merch? It's not like the jeweler scratches the face of coins; they can test the edge without the edge showing anything, except that it is a random date circulated coin with plenty of edge wear upon arrival. I'll bet you my 8 escudo if you were to hand them a coin to have tested when you got it back you wouldn't be able to tell it was tested, and you would therefore owe me 8 escudo for losing the bet........ Also, the density test can be easily faked with heavy metals plated to appear 22k, and it was either here in cointalk or another forum that mentioned how there are 18k jeweler copies out there. I took it to American Rare Coin here in MN, and my guy says it LOOKS legit. But it's obviously more copper than my 8 escudo, and he says it could be due to the alloys in the sovereign. He also doesn't have an acid test kit so he could not be 100% sure. [USER=15199]@desertgem[/USER] thank you for the link!! Honestly that product LOOKS like 22k gold from the picture. Moreso than my sovereign. And yes I will take a picture and upload it after having it re-tested by Continental Diamond. Yes, I had my 1500 Carlos y Juana escudo as well as all gold tested. That's why it's painfully obvious from looking that the sovereign is not 22k. BUT like [USER=26302]@medoraman[/USER] said the first test COULD have found a poor mix spot, so I will ask them kindly to re-test it. Also: APMEX has actually a lot of negative feedback on Ebay regarding poor quality coins, items not shipped, etc. I HOPE they aren't scamming the majority while the minority of us who research coins do due diligence and end up calling them out. Thank you ALL for responding!! I am still looking for answers along the lines of experience... i.e. "I've bought many sovereigns, and some just LOOK copper-ish..." or "Ratios were harder to control and not as precise back in the UK..." I'd love to learn from your experiences...[/QUOTE]
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