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<p>[QUOTE="Numbers, post: 1146239, member: 11668"]Disney dollars are very obviously not U.S. currency: it very clearly says "Legal Tender Only at Disneyland". For legal purposes, it has the status of a coupon or gift certificate.</p><p> </p><p>Silver rounds are very obviously not U.S. currency: they lack a denomination.</p><p> </p><p>Liberty Dollars carry a denomination in dollars, and have legends and designs similar to those found on U.S. currency. Some people were spending them without explanation, and some businesses accepted them at face value, only to discover later that the bank wouldn't take them and the melt value was well below face. Von NotHaus insists that he wasn't *trying* to deceive anybody, but the jury apparently didn't buy it. If he'd denominated the rounds in ounces and not in dollars, he'd've had no trouble. If he'd kept the "dollars" but left off the "USA" and "Liberty" and such, it's anybody's guess how the law would've been interpreted.</p><p> </p><p>I'm sure nobody who reads this board would confuse a Liberty Dollar with a U.S. coin, but then the general public has never read the Red Book. Plenty of cashiers aren't sure whether Kennedy halves or $2 bills are real money, and those are the folks who might be fooled by a Liberty Dollar. There was a story a few years ago, when the goverment first sent out a warning about the Liberty Dollars to banks, that a few days later a bank manager called the police to arrest a customer who was depositing a few hundred Ike dollars.... That kind of confusion, about what is and is not money, gets in the way of commerce, and it's what the government is trying to prevent by prosecuting von NotHaus.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Numbers, post: 1146239, member: 11668"]Disney dollars are very obviously not U.S. currency: it very clearly says "Legal Tender Only at Disneyland". For legal purposes, it has the status of a coupon or gift certificate. Silver rounds are very obviously not U.S. currency: they lack a denomination. Liberty Dollars carry a denomination in dollars, and have legends and designs similar to those found on U.S. currency. Some people were spending them without explanation, and some businesses accepted them at face value, only to discover later that the bank wouldn't take them and the melt value was well below face. Von NotHaus insists that he wasn't *trying* to deceive anybody, but the jury apparently didn't buy it. If he'd denominated the rounds in ounces and not in dollars, he'd've had no trouble. If he'd kept the "dollars" but left off the "USA" and "Liberty" and such, it's anybody's guess how the law would've been interpreted. I'm sure nobody who reads this board would confuse a Liberty Dollar with a U.S. coin, but then the general public has never read the Red Book. Plenty of cashiers aren't sure whether Kennedy halves or $2 bills are real money, and those are the folks who might be fooled by a Liberty Dollar. There was a story a few years ago, when the goverment first sent out a warning about the Liberty Dollars to banks, that a few days later a bank manager called the police to arrest a customer who was depositing a few hundred Ike dollars.... That kind of confusion, about what is and is not money, gets in the way of commerce, and it's what the government is trying to prevent by prosecuting von NotHaus.[/QUOTE]
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