Extra, Extra, read all about it: Extra horned Bison

Come on guys...there is no reason to be insulted at anything...y'all can agree to disagree.

I for one don't call this another horn either but that doesn't mean that you have to think that...

Speedy

 

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Glad you enjoy collecting "errors", but I am like Old Dan, I don't see anything that I would classify as another horn. Some folks don't care anything about errors----I've got 60 or 70 rolls of the bison nickels and have never even bothered to look for errors in any of them. Only interest I would have in errors would be if they brought a big premium when I sold them. With a multitude of "errors" being discovered by every Tom, Dick and Harry, I seriously doubt that any of them will ever be of any real value.

 

How do u get a copyright so fast?

 

They had 2 give it a name...so what would u call it? &^%$&

 

"How do u get a copyright so fast?"

You get copyright protection by claiming it, and marking the copyrighted material as such.

 

Having a copyright is one thing, trying to protect it is another very expensive undertaking. On a non-cash productive thing like a picture of a coin posted on an internet site, the gain ain't worth the pain (and cost).

If we don't want something copied, we shouldn't post it on a public access internet site. You even take a risk when you send something by e-mail to someone you are acquainted with, who then shares it with a friend or friends, who then shares with their friends, etc. Then the work becomes author, etc, unknown and rapidly floats around the country.

Good luck in trying to gain control over your pictures.

 

2 things:

1) I'm a professional photographer and YOU can NOT LEGALLY use someones elses Photograph if it has a copyright on it. It's THE LAW!!!!!

2) I didn't make the error, the MINT DID!!!!!!! YES the name fits...what else do you call it???? Varieties are REAL and people COLLECT them. Isn't this what this site is all about, COLLECTING, not BASHING other peoples finds!!!!!!!!!

 

We will find out all about the Bison errors NEXT YEAR when all the new guide books come out. If it doesn't make the books, well.....? In the mean time keep everything that your heart desires as your collection has to satisfy on one but you!

 

How would someone submit a bison error to be "in the books"?

I have at least 15 varieties and I would think a few could make the books.

Thanks

 

I reckon this yall could be setles faster then a quick draw at sundown tomorra

 

While running the risk of raising your wrath, I would suggest a collector of "real" error coins read, "The Error Coin Encyclopedia" by Arnold Margolis. I think you'll find that most if not all of your 15 varieties are nothing more than common die cracks. The cause would be over use of the dies striking coins out of one of the hardest metals.

However, if you like to collect die cracks and enjoy giving them names, then by all means, go for it. Collect what you like and worry not about what the rest of the world thinks. I've been a collector of chopmarked, holed and toned coins for years while most others considered them damaged. Now they're "in fashion".

..JD

 

JD - I would love to see some chopmarked coins from your collection.

 

I have a very extensive collection of "real" error coins, like my avatar.

Yes many of the varieties are die cracks. The speared Bison D and P are Not die cracks. My two horns could be, but the placemet of the 'error' is perfect, thus eye appeal.

MY WHOLE POINT IS: This is the most beautiful Modern Issue and is out for only for 6 months. Why not have FUN hunting for varieties.

 

How does one submit a coin to be "recognized" as an named error/variety? I've asked this question a few times and no answers. Yes there are many die cracks and chips (in the Bisons), but some are well placed with great eye appeal. I think mine might be one. There is only one Bison, so bring on the Named Varieties!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

There seems to be considerable bashing of ERRORCOINS in this thread. My opinion (and you know what they say about opinions...) is that if he wants to collect them, that's GREAT! I, too, would like to have a few of these errors, but so far I haven't found any in my stack of Bisons.

It makes me wonder what people would have said in 1937 about the 3-legged Buffalo had an Internet forum like this existed. They might have said, "Oh, it's just missing part of its leg, so what"? or "That will never be worth more than a nickel"! Judging by all the worn 37-D 3-Legged Buffalos, MOST people didn't know what they had until it was too late.

So, ERRORCOINS, keep collecting those errors and keep posting their pics for us to see. They're very interesting!!!!!!

 

I don't know how you would get this coin recognized. GDJMSP always has good suggestions. I've only identified new Morgan and Peace varieties. The VAMs aren't always errors. A VAM is just an identified pair of dies. In reality, all Morgans and Peace dollars are VAMs. Some are just more common than others. To get a specific new VAM designation, the coin has to have attributes that meet specific criteria. These 'rules' were made up by the authors (Van Allen and Mallis). A. George Mallis passed away, but Leroy Van Allen still accepts new Morgan and Peace discoveries and assigns VAM numbers.
A die crack would not get a new VAM. It has to be a die 'break'. A die chip or die gouge has to be visible by the naked eye and gets measured. Whose eye? I guess that would be Leroy's. Too many other rules to remember... like die clashing doesn't count, unless a letter is transfered or the coin was clashed more than once. The 1921-D Morgans have so many die breaks that a book was written (Rob Joyce - Fun with 1921). It shows several dozen VAMs just for 1921-D.

I should add... I think your coin looks pretty cool. My neighbor has cows. One lost its horn a month ago. It was just hanging there. Maybe you have a broken horn bison.

 

That's for sure. I used to grab every coin with a die crack I could lay my hands on. I thought they were so cool and everyone had them for sale. I kept wondering why dealers were selling them so cheap! Then I started checking every coin I received in change and WOW, they were there too, along with many errors!! I told a dealer friend (who is a avid error specialist and has written several articles about errors) who told me they were so cheap because they were so common on every denomination, and except for a few exceptions, most collectors pay no attention to them. Even though I don't collect them anymore I still like to see them and I still have many in my collection. Errorcoins has some great examples and I hope they turn out to be key errors in the series so please don't stop the photos if you find more.

A good example. When I recvd my 2005 mint set, guess what? The Denver Lincoln had 2 die cracks, 1 protruding from his hair behind the neck and another close to Liberty. Sent them back. I wanted pristine fields on this set and I thought the cracks looked bad. Different collectors, different interests. Forums like this would be pretty boring if everyone collected the same thing and had the same opinions all the time.