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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 957557, member: 112"]What you are saying makes good sense for a lot of people. But when you know how to grade yourself the best idea is to look at every single coin there is, slabbed by anybody, with a questioning eye. Now you have to agree to that Paul, and so do you Mike, or you both have to throw out the mantra that both of you have agreed to many, many times over the years. That being - buy the coin not the holder.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now would either one of you like to disagree with - buy the coin not the holder ? Didn't think so.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p>Well I shouldn't be exempt, because in this case even if you use NGC standards that coin is not worthy of a 66. Even if CAC agrees with it too.</p><p><br /></p><p>That coin is covered with hairlines. And no, I do not say that because of what I have already explained about die polishing lines. I also say it because die polish lines do not criss cross each other either. Neither do flow lines, which are the only other acceptable reason for those lines to be there. But flow lines do not show up on the devices like that either. And while I do believe that coin has some visible flow lines, the majority of those lines are in my opinion hairlines caused by mishandling. Thus the coin is not worthy of a 66 even by NGC standards.</p><p><br /></p><p>So no, I will not just blindly accept the grade on the slab and the CAC sticker. Those lines are there, they are not imaginary. To use your words Paul, this one of those coins where the TPG blew it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now if you want see a couple they got right - here.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=69014&Lot_No=64244#Photo" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=69014&Lot_No=64244#Photo" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=69014&Lot_No=64244#Photo</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=29083&Lot_No=24246#Photo" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=29083&Lot_No=24246#Photo" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=29083&Lot_No=24246#Photo</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Same dat/mint, and both are a 100 times nicer than the coin in this thread.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 957557, member: 112"]What you are saying makes good sense for a lot of people. But when you know how to grade yourself the best idea is to look at every single coin there is, slabbed by anybody, with a questioning eye. Now you have to agree to that Paul, and so do you Mike, or you both have to throw out the mantra that both of you have agreed to many, many times over the years. That being - buy the coin not the holder. Now would either one of you like to disagree with - buy the coin not the holder ? Didn't think so. Well I shouldn't be exempt, because in this case even if you use NGC standards that coin is not worthy of a 66. Even if CAC agrees with it too. That coin is covered with hairlines. And no, I do not say that because of what I have already explained about die polishing lines. I also say it because die polish lines do not criss cross each other either. Neither do flow lines, which are the only other acceptable reason for those lines to be there. But flow lines do not show up on the devices like that either. And while I do believe that coin has some visible flow lines, the majority of those lines are in my opinion hairlines caused by mishandling. Thus the coin is not worthy of a 66 even by NGC standards. So no, I will not just blindly accept the grade on the slab and the CAC sticker. Those lines are there, they are not imaginary. To use your words Paul, this one of those coins where the TPG blew it. Now if you want see a couple they got right - here. [url]http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=69014&Lot_No=64244#Photo[/url] [url]http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=29083&Lot_No=24246#Photo[/url] Same dat/mint, and both are a 100 times nicer than the coin in this thread.[/QUOTE]
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