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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;stldanceartist, post: 2719027, member: 13307&quot;]You know, at one point, I was naive enough to think that asking NGC how they diagnose different finishes would lead me somewhere.&nbsp; I&#039;ll summarize our <a href="https://www.ngccoin.com/boards/topic/409074-how-does-ngc-tell-the-difference-between-bu-and-pl-world-coins/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ngccoin.com/boards/topic/409074-how-does-ngc-tell-the-difference-between-bu-and-pl-world-coins/" rel="nofollow">exchange</a>:</p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;How does NGC tell the difference between BU, Proof, and Prooflike? (specifically about South African coins)&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>NGC: &quot;Yes, there are different finishes.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>Me: &quot;You didn&#039;t answer my question.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>Crickets: &quot;chirp.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>So, either they have a computer answering their questions for them, they have a secret way of telling the difference, or they just put down whatever someone writes on the form when they submit the coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>I would tend to guess that the Proof version would be the frosted version of the two, and the non-frosted would be &quot;the other one.&quot;&nbsp; Just like you said.&nbsp; I would wonder if Krause left out some information (which they do - we all know this - anyone have a copy missing an entire country like Panama?&nbsp; The LCS does.) or if the Korean version might be losing something in translation?&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>I have had a few coins that have &quot;unfrosted proof&quot; characteristics, but in the guides they are not labeled as such (most recently a Nepalese crown-sized coin.)&nbsp; Mirror finishes to both sides, no cameo frost, but not listed as a proof.</p><p><br /></p><p>Side note: I wonder why a reference # (KM, Y) is not standard info printed on every graded world coin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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