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Message:: [QUOTE="Insider, post: 2323242, member: 24314"]Thanks, I like your post.  You could make a good Moderator <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Again, IMO, based on what I have seen, those spots were on the coin when it was graded.  IMO, they did not get worse over time and should not change much in the future.  Those spots should knock the coin out of TPGS MS-66 and my personal MS-65 range.   I know that COINS DO TURN IN SLABS after they are graded.  That's one reason the TPGS's don't guarantee copper or SE anymore. If we had the slab with us, using a stereo microscope we would see debris INSIDE the black spots or not.  If there was debris, I should argue on your side for that spot.  Otherwise, those types of spots take years to develop. Playing Devil's Advocate: The first coin DOES show an indication of raised black debris in some spots w/discoloration around them.  I would also like to know what the white spot under the date is...looks like a cookie crumb...LOL. Furthermore,  IF THERE WAS A GUN AT MY HEAD to give the correct answer, I would probably say.....I don't wish to die/you are winning me over/I'll go along with the pack....NOT ON THE COIN WHEN GRADED....A least most of them or it should not be graded that high.  Then we are left with the question: "Who coughed on the cent?"[/QUOTE]