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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;desertgem, post: 940981, member: 15199&quot;]<p style="text-align: left"></p><p><br /></p><p>That is the conundrum. If they use this definition, they must include any coin a day after minting, as the chemical process starts the minute of the strike due to the presence of oxygen. Toning is the visible indicator of a stage of chemical reaction, but it isn&#039;t like it was after striking, so at what stage is an arbitrary line drawn?</p><p><br /></p><p>Also as most have heard, the majority of coins over 100 years old ( or even much less) have been acid dipped&nbsp; back to bright white, and the coin surface isn&#039;t like it was at striking , it is reduced. This is less noticeable the first time it is dipped and most after 3 or more, so it isn&#039;t mint state by their definition either.</p><p><br /></p><p>As far as the general market, I think MS is defined on a wear basis rather than dipped or toned coins. Many experts define numismatic terms in favor of their own collecting preferences and beliefs.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you like toning~ Great, If you like Bright White ~ Great.....3 decades from now, preferences will probably be reversed again <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Jim[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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