Ever wonder...

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Coinlover67, Aug 22, 2016.

  1. Coinlover67

    Coinlover67 Well-Known Member

    ... Why Unc coins found in circulation are still called Unc, when they have "circulated"? I know the difference between the two, but it is one of the crazy questions that comes to in the middle of the night.

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  3. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Honestly, no.... and because it's a term used to describe a coin's condition/state and not where it's been. I do understand your point though.
     
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  4. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Nothing comes to me in the middle of the night after a Clonozapam.;)
     
  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I have a few hundred rolls of uncirculated 2004-2006 Westward Journey nickels. Suppose I decided to use some of the rolls to buy a few things at the grocery store. Do you think they would all be "circulated" once the cashier breaks them open?

    Chris
     
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  6. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I think this thread points out, already, why we have a coin grading system, that despite its faults, still is a pretty good deal for the hobby.
     
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  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    At 12:02 am, I don't think anything. :)
     
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  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's quite simple, it's because a coin can have actually been in circulation and yet not have any wear on it.



    Well, it appears you and I are in agreement. Unfortunately the TPGs are not in agreement with us. For the TPGs claim that wear isn't wear unless it occurs while a coin is in circulation.

    Of course there is absolutely no way of determining how and where a coin got its wear, but then that is how the TPGs manage to grade coins as MS that have obvious wear on them.

    Isn't it just great how that works ! :rolleyes:
     
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  9. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    Of course this applies more as the value of the coin goes up... ;)
     
  10. Pap4tinker

    Pap4tinker Active Member

    Funny, my wife was just asking me the same thing. I had to read her the description of coin grades from the red book, ha ha. I agree, it's a name of a grade rather than a determination of where a coin has or has not been.
     
  11. Bighorn

    Bighorn New Member

    "Uncirculated" is a description of the coin's condition and not its history. After all, if I were to pick up a coin I had never before seen I would have to call it "uncirculated" or not based on that because I cannot know its history.
     
  12. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    What do you think... cabinet friction? :p

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  13. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Grading is subjective. If you don't see any wear, it's Uncirculated whether it actually is or not.
     
  14. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    This is an item in my talk entitled, "Dumb Stuff (I only sometimes use "Stuff") Coin Collectors Say". The word "Uncirculated" needs to be banished from our language and replaced with "Mint State", which also does not mean "Pennsylvania, Colorado, New York or California".

    "Uncirculated" has never been a statement of a coin's whereabouts and/or history, and has always been a condition per se, but new people coming into the field apparently have an obligation to repeat previous generations' misapplications of terminology. Why read a book when you can just assume stuff, right?
     
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  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Absolutely this is cabinet friction, if by cabinet you mean years of banging around against other coins in hundreds of people's pockets. Or.... the cabinet might contain a rock tumbler with coarse grit in it.
     
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  16. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    How about if they DON'T open the roll...still circulated? How many angels CAN dance on the head of a pin?
     
  17. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Maybe too much "pocket pool".

    Chris
     
  18. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    So, if it is not "Mint State", then it must be "Former Mint State" which also does not imply that it was North Carolina, Georgia or Louisiana.

    Chris;);)
     
  19. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Not to mention Nevada. Oops, I just did. DARN!
     
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