Ever Try to Beat Grading Records? = World Record?

I get that there's a whole different world of coin speculation, notoriety for grades, etc. But to me, it's not about those things - I see this as a friendly and fun treasure hunting game.

Sort of like playing fantasy league or watching a sport that's confined to a professional league and their rules and definitions, even though I could play fantasy and pickup ball with friends for fun and for free. I think that both can be fun, so long as they're not taken too far.

 

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Me I collect by eye appeal and collect early stuff too. So I'd rather have an au 58 with great surfaces then a dipped out ms 65. I'm in a couple registrys but I haven't really been keeping up on it since I've been a dealer as I've sold or have for sale many coins I could easily replace or wish to upgrade and for the record other than a couple 1950s proofs that I only have for type set completeness I don't own a coin higher than ms 67. A lot of my coins are 63-65. And a lot are xf and au. But surface preservation original skin and toning are my criteria for purchase

 

MS-67 sounds pretty darn good for an older, non-modern coin, at least to me anyway!

Anyway, I'm going to submit this WWII Irish coin in soon, and I hope it'll get close to that. Yes, I can try and grade, but once I get into the MS grades beyond MS-63 or so, my mind can't settle on a grade. I question every little detail - I really can't help it... but one day, it'll click. Hopefully...

My camera skills don't do this 1942 Ireland Shilling justice.
There's more of the full original cartwheel luster shown in the blurry third pic, while having the depth and breadth of color of the first two pics. It's a total keeper.






And, regarding the general discussion here, I see this hobby about sharing about what you have and getting feedback. I love seeing pics of what others have and I often revise my wish list that way because I see something new, either the coin in its entirety or certain aspects of the coin (in fact, I believe that every thread requires pics! But that's for a different discussion...). I would love to see what treasures you all found, be it raw or be it deals. I learn something new almost every time others or I share something, be it pics or more questions.

Some may share their collection to the extreme, whatever the motive is, but I see nothing wrong with what most collectors seem to be doing, especially with non-moderns. If longtime collectors who are numismatic experts, either trained or in their own right, don't share their pics/collections, then the not-yet-Guru collectors won't know and learn what they're missing out on. Granted, most of you all have been awesome at sharing numismatic information. Sharing keeps us grounded. Sharing is caring!

By the way, if I call the '42 Irish Shilling above an MS-66, and you all agree, and NGC says it's an MS-66, then it's a fun little game we all win at! If I call this an MS-66, some of you may call it MS-65, others MS-64+, and it comes back as MS-64, then we all lose that round lol. Yes, your expert grades can be valid or even more accurate, as this is pretty subjective in nature especially given the grades off of photos, but I make a game out of what the TPG will say. Unless NGC says that this is an MS-68 or higher, then we can all say that NGC screwed up and I somehow ended up with a "world record" lol.

Anyway, sorry for the long rant-like discussion and for adding more stuff to this post lol

 

ditto

Plus they are ugly

 

The only ms 67s I have are a merc and a walker. Got a walker in pr 67 too. From there I have a seated quarter and a couple Morgan's in 66. Then a ton of coins in 65

 

I don't really buy by grade. Depending on the coin, an honest VF might appeal to me just as much as an MS67, but in different ways.

 

I'm going to call that shilling 64 and hope I'm wrong

I know what you mean, about wanting to have the top pop coins. It is nearly impossible in the US series, but most foreign coins have never been submitted. My Moroccan set, for example, holds many top pop coins (and I have a few raw that I will be submitting, with hopes of grabbing the highest grades).