Ever seen this - counterfeit morgan sheets

In a sheet like shown? I didnt see it. Can you share a screen shot?

 

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Not in a sheet like this but individually. Same date/MM. Unfortunatley I can't capture any images from that site, right clicking to try does not work. (Protected photos) Not sure if one is up at this time but they have been in the past.

 

These "sellers" will never meet you in a police station.
The "I got them from my grandfather and don't know what they are worth."
Is coin scam story #1.
If they are real and they don't know what they are worth, why would they sell them to you? Why wouldn't they go to a dealer, or look them up and see what they are worth?
These are 103% fake.

 

@ed wood 654 are these real or fakes?

 

And knowledge of the known varieties of 1889-CC?

And armed men with you if what this turns out to be is tailing you home to rob you there?

This is utter foolishness. A Craigslist transaction, or enough money to live comfortably for a few years if you sell them honestly and aboveboard. Think about it.

Frankly, if you're attempting to enter into repeated transactions where the seller refuses to meet at a police station, you're walking in the wrong part of town.

 

I am all about helping people on this forum so I will download the pic and I will do a detailed inspection of these coins and let you know. I don't personally have one of these but I do have a bunch of 1889 CCs I am holding for one of my big international clients that I am happy to compare for you.

 

He's a charlatan, and not an expert. Trust not in his opinion, as he is quite simply, a person whose opinion is to be avoided........

 

How will comparing an 1899 to an 1889 help?

 

Ed has a 50-50 chance of guessing the right answer.

 

Fake from a mile away. This isn't even a close call. These sheets sell all of the time, they are cheap knockoffs and are not even silver. I've also seen trade dollars and really bad ASEs in the sheets.

 

I scouted out a couple of "replica coin" dealers. The people behind these sites are really unwashed scum, aren't they. Not fit to breathe oxygen someone else might need.

 

I immediately parsed that as a bit of sarcasm on the OP's part. If he was serious, well, that's the best support for my opinion that Ed needs to be removed, because obviously there are people beginning to believe his BS. The Forum itself becomes part of the problem if not.

 

Yes, he knows, and I know. I have proof. Don't go. Period. I've bought coins like this before for $0.60 each- play money. I saved the packaging from when I bought these for cases just like this, should they ever present themselves. Notice how the sheets are virtually identical to the ones in the photos you posted????

 

If you insist on going through with this, please consider this your notice of your legal obligations once you purchase the counterfeit coins

https://www.ftc.gov/policy/federal-...-regulations-under-hobby-protection-act-final

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@SuperDave @green18 I was looking to add a little entertainment to my day!

@Burton Strauss III thanks for policing this and thanks for the notice. It looks like others here have purposely bought counterfeits. We can all consider ourselves duly notified.

Unfortunatley I can't report that I went through with meeting them. I cancelled this meeting this morning. My (wife's) gut told me that was the best thing to do! The comments here were also helpful and I appreciate that.

 

I've 2 adopted Chinese daughters that were obtained in China by my son and his wife, the oldest in 2000, where arrangements were made with a vendor/producer to deliver a set of 90% (produced from melted U.S. Silver coins) Morgan dollar keys/semi-keys. Funds were paid to have an 1889cc coin sent to me sealed in a container marked "copy". I received the purchased coin prior to paying for the "Set". It was verified by "experts" to be as "authentic" as an "original", and verified for dimensions/constituents.

The set was received sealed/encapsulated as shown in sheets of plastic film material, with each compartment having an identification of "COPY".

The coins in unopened sheets have been viewed by many "experts" who found nothing that would indicate the coins to be "copies".

The coins were stated to be struck on "surplus" U.S. coinage presses, with dies copied from original U.S. coins. Current machining technology for generating product "replications" is far advanced to when the original coins were "produced".

I find it amusing when people talk about inferior "copies" of U.S. products. I've spent a significant portion of my life "reverse engineering" and "replicating", to produce superior products for U.S. production. The humorous part is that I've received technical nominations/awards for excellence from Chinese scientists/Phds working in our labs to produce "superior" technology products from my "reverse engineering" efforts. They understood the complexity of "replication", where American management was "clueless". This isn't "nuclear science", guys!

JMHO

 

If the coins that you had made resemble anything like the ones the OP showed, you need better experts. These are very clearly cheap knockoffs. I'm a chemical engineer with several patents, a giant machine shop, laser engravers, 3-D metal printers, laser scanners and heat treating at my disposal. I am fully aware of reverse engineering techniques and realize that very deceiving copies can be made, but this is not the case here.

 

Why focus on the sheets? Look closely and you'll see why this is meaningless (for future reference). As for the website, I assume Alibaba or Ali Express is what has been referenced. While I understand and certainly respect the sentiment behind not divulging the name, it's really to the point it no longer matters, and I genuinely believe people such as yourself would benefit more from having the opportunity to search the site and see for yourself what's being offered. Generally speaking, I can tell you from personal experience that, more often than not, those offering such "incredible finds" are not the brightest tools in the shed, and rarely know enough to seek out genuinely deceptive fakes.

You don't even realize how badly you just outed yourself as a fraud, do you? It was, ahem, "fun" the first 10-20 times, Ed, but it's time to grow up and face reality. SuperDave is dead in regards to how badly your BS reflects upon this forum; sooner or later your little games are going to hurt someone, and most likely one who can least afford it. Someone should be very proud...