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<p>[QUOTE="Tin_Man_0, post: 7552842, member: 100189"]What gives you the impression that any of them are the genuine article? The parts circled seemed to me like possible pmd from the original. I'm guessing the forger managed to produce a working die and made a few dozen or two and has been dropping them a little at a time whenever they needed money so as to not get caught... So why would a forger let go of the genuine article if his copies manage to even get certified? I couldn't imagine he'd let go of it until all his copies are gone and he can't or doesn't have the means to attempt creating another working die. So the oldest samples wouldn't necessarily mean they're genuine, but the rather just the first of the copies wouldn't it? Might explain why they look like they're in better shape too. The copies in lesser state are probably aged longer in whatever processes the forger uses to generate petina or accelerated ageing. I imagine that even accelerated aging can take a good amount of time if it's to be convincing.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Tin_Man_0, post: 7552842, member: 100189"]What gives you the impression that any of them are the genuine article? The parts circled seemed to me like possible pmd from the original. I'm guessing the forger managed to produce a working die and made a few dozen or two and has been dropping them a little at a time whenever they needed money so as to not get caught... So why would a forger let go of the genuine article if his copies manage to even get certified? I couldn't imagine he'd let go of it until all his copies are gone and he can't or doesn't have the means to attempt creating another working die. So the oldest samples wouldn't necessarily mean they're genuine, but the rather just the first of the copies wouldn't it? Might explain why they look like they're in better shape too. The copies in lesser state are probably aged longer in whatever processes the forger uses to generate petina or accelerated ageing. I imagine that even accelerated aging can take a good amount of time if it's to be convincing.[/QUOTE]
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