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<p>[QUOTE="Olisipo, post: 2522621, member: 75543"]I've been collecting ancient coins for three years now and I've gotten used to finding duplicates while browsing online auctions. However, I don't feel at ease yet explaining it. Quite a few of them will be fakes, but you're also assured (specially by sellers) that such coincidences are perfectly possible. The way I see it there are three options for each case:</p><p><br /></p><p>A) All genuine centuries-old coins from a contemporary die.</p><p>B) All fakes from a modern die.</p><p>C) At least one fake from a die obtained from a genuine coin, which might or might not be among the samples.</p><p><br /></p><p>Assuming every collector has faced this dilemma, what do you usually focus on to get to your conclusion? Here's two examples to aid the discussion:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=435936" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=435936" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=435936</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2162507" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2162507" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2162507</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2529703" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2529703" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2529703</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1845252" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1845252" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1845252</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2213100" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2213100" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2213100</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=68131" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=68131" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=68131</a></p><p><br /></p><p>(By the way, I've checked and none of them are featured at Forgery Network of FAC's database, so we're on our own.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Frankly, looking at each one separately I wouldn't suspect much (though the ones in the second set look odd), but common sense dictates than when dealing with mass produced objects such as these duplicates should be rare - and here we have triplicates. Further, differences in wear are slight at best.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also, notice in the first set a couple of them have that "cabinet toning" dealers like to point out, so they certainly are somewhat old (unless "cabinet toning" can be faked, which I've never heard about).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Olisipo, post: 2522621, member: 75543"]I've been collecting ancient coins for three years now and I've gotten used to finding duplicates while browsing online auctions. However, I don't feel at ease yet explaining it. Quite a few of them will be fakes, but you're also assured (specially by sellers) that such coincidences are perfectly possible. The way I see it there are three options for each case: A) All genuine centuries-old coins from a contemporary die. B) All fakes from a modern die. C) At least one fake from a die obtained from a genuine coin, which might or might not be among the samples. Assuming every collector has faced this dilemma, what do you usually focus on to get to your conclusion? Here's two examples to aid the discussion: [url]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=435936[/url] [url]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2162507[/url] [url]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2529703[/url] [url]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1845252[/url] [url]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2213100[/url] [url]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=68131[/url] (By the way, I've checked and none of them are featured at Forgery Network of FAC's database, so we're on our own.) Frankly, looking at each one separately I wouldn't suspect much (though the ones in the second set look odd), but common sense dictates than when dealing with mass produced objects such as these duplicates should be rare - and here we have triplicates. Further, differences in wear are slight at best. Also, notice in the first set a couple of them have that "cabinet toning" dealers like to point out, so they certainly are somewhat old (unless "cabinet toning" can be faked, which I've never heard about).[/QUOTE]
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