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<p>[QUOTE="Vegas Vic, post: 2015082, member: 58810"]Um it was a specific response to the below quote I kinda though that was self explanatory.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I'm trying to explain why a collector, like me, needs a tpg's opinion. To protect themselves. Then I explain why.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>My response had nothing to do with ethics. I am explaining definitions and trying to put into context the idea of bias. This is not an "anti-dealer" statement. It is referring to the very concept of bias. If you are a human and money is involved you will be biased. This is a definition not an argument. What I'm saying is anyone selling a coin, collector dealer has a bias because of the financial outcome. Anyone selling anything also fits this definition. With grading you have such a large value riding on a subjective art, it became such a huge problem that it created a market need which was filled by tpg's.</p><p><br /></p><p>A statement about "unethical bias" shows a lack of understanding about the concept of bias. It is not wrong or evil to have bias. It is human to have a bias. Everyone has a bias created from past experiences even when they don't have a financial stake there usually is a emotional one from those said past experiences. People us the word bias all the time in a negative context when they don't really just understand the very concept. It is human to have a bias.</p><p><br /></p><p>Further I was also explaining that even the tpg's have bias, which is frequently referred to by people saying it is the submitter that creates the grade. Something repeated countless times.</p><p><br /></p><p>That's ok though. If you don't get it just take some shots. I know how this works with some posters.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Vegas Vic, post: 2015082, member: 58810"]Um it was a specific response to the below quote I kinda though that was self explanatory. I'm trying to explain why a collector, like me, needs a tpg's opinion. To protect themselves. Then I explain why. My response had nothing to do with ethics. I am explaining definitions and trying to put into context the idea of bias. This is not an "anti-dealer" statement. It is referring to the very concept of bias. If you are a human and money is involved you will be biased. This is a definition not an argument. What I'm saying is anyone selling a coin, collector dealer has a bias because of the financial outcome. Anyone selling anything also fits this definition. With grading you have such a large value riding on a subjective art, it became such a huge problem that it created a market need which was filled by tpg's. A statement about "unethical bias" shows a lack of understanding about the concept of bias. It is not wrong or evil to have bias. It is human to have a bias. Everyone has a bias created from past experiences even when they don't have a financial stake there usually is a emotional one from those said past experiences. People us the word bias all the time in a negative context when they don't really just understand the very concept. It is human to have a bias. Further I was also explaining that even the tpg's have bias, which is frequently referred to by people saying it is the submitter that creates the grade. Something repeated countless times. That's ok though. If you don't get it just take some shots. I know how this works with some posters.[/QUOTE]
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