Hi, That was done by taking four individual bites with some sort of pliers. definitely post mint damage. Bill
Did you get it from a bag or uncirculated roll? If you did, then it's an error. If you didn't, I have no clue.
Drill bit????? Come on people. Lets see someone create this damage with a drill. Pliers???? Has anyone tried it?? I sure did. i tried 8" needlenose which barely made a scratch then I broke out 14" channel lock pliers. still can not squeeze enough to nearly sever the coin. I'm a fiirly buff 265 lb and can not even begin to squeeze this much. A punch????? these lines are precisely, to within one thousanths of an inch, mirror images on each side with the exact same marks on each line on both sides. One line is weak on obv as well as equally weak on rev. Duplicate that. Tools will cause a shiny scraped type damage but these lines, under a microscope, are un marked, full lustered indents. I respect your guys input but there has got to be a few experts out there that can surely discredit these ideas. I do not know what caused this but am trying some things ya'll are saying and there is no way that these are educated, (numismatically anyways) guesses because their simply impossible. Thanks for all the opinions though. any more ideas out there will be appreciated. bigd
Probably some sort of "shredder" like machine that did it. I cannot imagine how mints could made errors like that.
"I do not know what caused this but am trying some things ya'll are saying and there is no way that these are educated, (numismatically anyways) guesses because their simply impossible." I love a challege It took me about 20 minutes to duplicate that mark, it's not a perfect match, but it shows that it can be done fairly easily...a few failed attempts on the same coin, and then tile nippers in a vice...
How it was done I have no idea. But I have little doubt that it is after mint damage, the edge pics pretty much clinch that for me. The metal that protrudes beyond the reeding says to me it had to be so. For if it was done during striking the collar should have contained that metal - but it didn't. If I had to hazard a guess as to the method, I would guess screws on each side of the coin in a vise.
The coin was squeezed in some type of vice or pliers. there is no doubt at all. The reverse of the coin was the up side when the damage was done. That is evidenced by the fact that the edge is cut into more deeply on the reverse side than on the obverse side. The fact that the metal is pinched and is protruding on the edge of the coin where the reeding is makes it 100% certain that the coin was squeezed in the middle. The fact that the coin was not bent indicates that it was not struck with a hammer. It is possible though that the coin was gripped by a plier and then the plier was struck by a hammer or placed in a vice. The fact that we can't pick one out of what might be thousands of different tools doesn't alter the fact that this coin was pinched by a pair of pliers then the pliers were placed in a vice or struck by a hammer. post mint damage in any case. besides, there is nothing in the minting process that can cause marks like this. Thanks, Bill Take a cutting plier and place the coin in the midle of it
Here's a link to 2287 types of gripping tool or pliers. some can be tightened around an object. http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html/002-1424284-4254456?node=553314 It's not hard to imagine that one of these could cause that damage. Have Fun, Bill
Yeah, but you beat me to the punch. My tile nippers in a vise left very similar marks on a Lincoln Memorial. In fact, this overweight, under-exercised old man made nearly as deep marks just squeezing the tile nippers with both hands.