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<p>[QUOTE="lrbguy, post: 3544084, member: 88829"]Quite right. I have seen images of two examples of the "d" bust, but did observe that the list stops at type "c" for Mattingly and RIC. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I agree on the need to allow for some variation over the time gap. On the other hand, I am not finding that the variance fits a regular pattern. Last year we were toying with the appearance of graphic symbols as ciphers for the identity of specific goddesses. Now as then I am inclined to associate fussing with the veil as an aspect most particular to Pudicitia. You pointed out, perhaps tongue in cheek/check, that "a bare midriff sown with stars" might have been too risque for that figure. I don't know enough about how such a thing might have been understood back then to comment on that, but the absence of the bare midriff and stars motif might well have been intentional. Not sure about moral scruples so much as a plan to incorporate another deity by means of slightly altered iconography. I will keep looking for the emergence of patterns as the store of variances mounts.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I had forgotten about the thread in January in which you first mentioned the Beckman study. I have not read that study, but if it is defensible, then it certainly is the kind of thing that will help to partition that long period of commemoration. Based on other phenomena such as the vota coinage we know the Romans were attracted to decimal observances (annual, quinquennial, decennial) which would figure into the coinage, not only for issuance but for overt and covert design features. Looking for patterns is one approach to cracking the codes.</p><p><br /></p><p>For all that I appreciate the durability of this thread over time.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="lrbguy, post: 3544084, member: 88829"]Quite right. I have seen images of two examples of the "d" bust, but did observe that the list stops at type "c" for Mattingly and RIC. I agree on the need to allow for some variation over the time gap. On the other hand, I am not finding that the variance fits a regular pattern. Last year we were toying with the appearance of graphic symbols as ciphers for the identity of specific goddesses. Now as then I am inclined to associate fussing with the veil as an aspect most particular to Pudicitia. You pointed out, perhaps tongue in cheek/check, that "a bare midriff sown with stars" might have been too risque for that figure. I don't know enough about how such a thing might have been understood back then to comment on that, but the absence of the bare midriff and stars motif might well have been intentional. Not sure about moral scruples so much as a plan to incorporate another deity by means of slightly altered iconography. I will keep looking for the emergence of patterns as the store of variances mounts. I had forgotten about the thread in January in which you first mentioned the Beckman study. I have not read that study, but if it is defensible, then it certainly is the kind of thing that will help to partition that long period of commemoration. Based on other phenomena such as the vota coinage we know the Romans were attracted to decimal observances (annual, quinquennial, decennial) which would figure into the coinage, not only for issuance but for overt and covert design features. Looking for patterns is one approach to cracking the codes. For all that I appreciate the durability of this thread over time.[/QUOTE]
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